sick gsp!
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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luvmyfatfish
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sick gsp!
hey guys, I have three gsps in a 55 gal. along with 1 pleco.. sg around 1.006, 0 ammonia and Im not sure on the nitrites and nitrates, cant test them till tomarrow but all three have always had there own territories... two stay near the bottom one on each side and one near the top.. but today I noticed very tiny white bumps that look like tiny bubbles on the puff that stays near the top and he keeps rubbing his belly on the decor.. All are eating fine and acting the same other then the rubbing by the sick one.. Anyone know whats wrong and or how to treat?? any ideas on how to treat without a sick tank would be best if possible because I no longer have a cycled sick tank, ( getting ready to move) PLEASE HELP! he is by far my favorate of all my fish!!
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luvmyfatfish
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- Location: Erie Pa
Re: sick gsp!
I dont know if this is relivant or not but he eats more then the rest and never stops begging even after eating.. The other two go back to swimming around but he stays right at the front begging
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luvmyfatfish
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Re: sick gsp!
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: sick gsp!
Might be ich, especially if he's scratching like that.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: sick gsp!
Sounds alot like ich to me too, and I'd be treating the tank quickly before they all have it, you could possibly lose them if you wait too long. 
I hope you get it sorted. I love my GSP's alot, they make me smile everyday.
I hope you get it sorted. I love my GSP's alot, they make me smile everyday.
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Iliveinazoo
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Re: sick gsp!
Try doing a water change and upping the SG a bit (no more than 0.002).
Plecos are freshwater?
Plecos are freshwater?
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yunachin
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Re: sick gsp!
You need to get the nitrates and nitrites tested. Also what does your ph look like? Are you planning on upgrading in the future for them? They need about 30 gallons each to help dilute waste. As far as treatment you need to treat alone in a hospital tank or bucket. If you treat the main system you can put the whole tank at risk.
Remove the pleco because they are strictly freshwater and work on getting that salinity up to at least 1.012+.
Were they quarantined before you placed them in the main tank?
Remove the pleco because they are strictly freshwater and work on getting that salinity up to at least 1.012+.
Were they quarantined before you placed them in the main tank?
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: sick gsp!
Plecos are FW. Salinity is 1.006.Iliveinazoo wrote:Try doing a water change and upping the SG a bit (no more than 0.002).
Plecos are freshwater?
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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luvmyfatfish
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- Location: Erie Pa
Re: sick gsp!
thank everyone!! they have all been together for months.. and the pleco seems happy, i dont understand it but since i started raising the sg he (pleco) got alot bigger an d doesnt seem bothered by it. I had to work both of my jobs the last few days so I didnt make it to the store to test my water.. but I will first thing tomarrow.. I raised the sg to 1.008 and he appears to be the same.. hes such a happy little guy, I hope I can get him healthy again
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luvmyfatfish
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- Location: Erie Pa
Re: sick gsp!
one more thing.. all of them get darker bellies when the lights are off but within a few minutes of the lights being on they go back to almost all white?? Is this normal??
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: sick gsp!
Yeah, pretty much. GSPs are spazzy. They're probably just a little startled by the change. Some of them also get dark bellies when they eat, hunt, or sleep.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!