Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

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Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

Post by sasg »

Hello,

I come to you because I have a big problem with my tetraodon Miurus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MOzGOL9YQ

I think a bacterial infection
if so, what treatment, if not what is the treatment?

Thank you
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im so sorry to see that your puffer is poorly, i really cant offer any advice on this but someone will be along soon who hopefully can
hope he gets better soon!
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he does not eat, do buries itself more

Help me please?
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Re: Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

Post by marksrush »

Whatever it is, I'd try adding some Melafix and Pimafix to the tank for starters. They're soothing to the fish and while they may or may not help much, they won't do any harm and won't interfere with any other medication you may be advised to add later. We'll have to wait for one of the experts to respond to your posting for further instructions.
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thank you
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Re: Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

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Please answer the questions above in red.

First thing to always do with a sick fish is ensure you have the cleanest water possible. If you haven't done any water changes in a while, do a few smaller ones (10% or so) over the next few days then start doing larger 50-90% changes. Clean water heals a lot.

Looking at the video, it seems pretty advanced though so I'd start antibiotics.. antibiotics and clean water will be your main priorities right now.

Puffers can go several weeks without eating and often do if they are stressed or sick, so don't worry too much about that. Yours isn't fat but it isn't dangerously thin either, so it should be okay if it doesn't eat right now.
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Re: Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

Post by sasg »

Parameters:
NO3: 20
NO2: 0
ph: 7.5

Change water more than 20% every week (or more)

Suspended Filter: hang on Filter Liberty 200 (2042)

aquarium: 65x40x30 cm

He eats last Thursday

I added in water TEMEROL of aquascience
http://www.francodex.fr/p-francodexfrpu ... ct=PRODUCT[@ID$eq$136]
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Post by Myaj »

That might work, doing the rough translation and looking up the ingredients says it is an antibiotic.

Keep up the clean water though, BIG water changes and watch your tank readings to make sure the medication doesn't crash the biofilter (causing ammonia and nitrites).

20 nitrates is "okay" but still a little high for puffers, especially a sick one. More clean water :)
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I just give you bad news
This morning, I find it stiff, eyes fixed, but breathing :(

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Re: Miurus : bacterial infection? he does not eat

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Sorry to say, he looks like a gonner. :)

I'm wondering if after he goes, you ould do an autopsy? i had a suvattii for a short while who didn't make it. When I cut him open, his liver was yellow & hard.
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