Here, see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16930
I'm not sure that's what it is, but its definately something to look into.
stars and stripes puffer sick?
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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tennisball
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
Very serious indeed. Kiwi just died. 
I gave him one dose of Maracyn Plus out of desperation, but it didn't do any good. The skin that was flaking on the outside seemed to be flaking on the inside too, nad he would spit out bits of skin. I am devastated. I hope that someone can tell me what this was, and if I need to be concerned for the rest of the fish that had shared the tank with him.
Also, I had moved the Fluval filter from the big tank to the quarantine tank because the filter that came with that tank was not for salt water. I would like to move it back now, but is there any risk in doing that? I also moved some rocks in there too, which would be a lot harder to disinfect (if that is necessary).
Poor poor Kiwi.
I gave him one dose of Maracyn Plus out of desperation, but it didn't do any good. The skin that was flaking on the outside seemed to be flaking on the inside too, nad he would spit out bits of skin. I am devastated. I hope that someone can tell me what this was, and if I need to be concerned for the rest of the fish that had shared the tank with him. Also, I had moved the Fluval filter from the big tank to the quarantine tank because the filter that came with that tank was not for salt water. I would like to move it back now, but is there any risk in doing that? I also moved some rocks in there too, which would be a lot harder to disinfect (if that is necessary).
Poor poor Kiwi.
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blondenblue
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
im so sorry for your loss.
I really hope someone can give you some insight into what the disease was and how to now move forward
I really hope someone can give you some insight into what the disease was and how to now move forward
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edmlfc1
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
Being that he was in the tank with the other fish all this time, if they are going to get this disease they would already have it. It may not be visible just yet, so moving the filter back onto the main tank shouldn't matter. But before you move it please wait for someone with more expereince.
Sorry that you lost Kiwi.
It may not be visible just yet, so moving the filter back onto the main tank shouldn't matter. But before you move it please wait for someone with more expereince. Sorry that you lost Kiwi.
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
I too was thinking earlier when I first viewed that video that it looked like Vibrio but have never seen another puffer beside the porc get it. Also I don't know if tennisball has added anything to the tank in order to introduce this highly contagious disease. Could your puffer have got stung by the lion fish??? So sorry for your loss .
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Sponge bob
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
So sorry for your loss. What Myaj said before did the stuff look like this?:
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tennisball
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
I doubt it was a from the lionfish, but I really can't say for certain as I don't watch them continuously. Fabio (the lionfish) is pretty mellow, though he does give a short chase to one of the triggers now and then. More of a 'piss off' message. The eel and the lionfish actually 'snuggle' or so it appears. The eel weaves himself in amongst the lion fishes 'feathers' adn just stays there for a time. It's the most curious thing. Anyway, Fabio never paid any attention to Kiwi at all, so I doubt that's it.
spongebob, that picture 'kind of' looks like it, but the colouring is a bit different. White on the edges like that though. Here are a couple of pictures, what do you think? Is that picture Vibrio? I tried googling vibrio, and all I can find is reference to humans getting it from fish.
I moved the filter back to the tank, but I dumped all the water out first and rinsed it, just in case Kiwi had released any toxins in death.
spongebob, that picture 'kind of' looks like it, but the colouring is a bit different. White on the edges like that though. Here are a couple of pictures, what do you think? Is that picture Vibrio? I tried googling vibrio, and all I can find is reference to humans getting it from fish.
I moved the filter back to the tank, but I dumped all the water out first and rinsed it, just in case Kiwi had released any toxins in death.
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Sponge bob
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
I think it is the same but coloration can be a bit off on some of it.
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tennisball
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
So what is that then? Vibrio? If so, do you know where I can find more information on it? I searched the library, and googled it. Maybe it has another name?
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Myaj
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
tennisball, I'm going to send a PM to a member here who doesn't have time to monitor the forum but is extremely experienced in marine puffer diseases and have her take a look, okay?
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tennisball
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Re: stars and stripes puffer sick?
That would be great! Information seems hard to come by....