Jeeze!
Sorry to here this flash.dan, that cannot be nice to see your poor girl in that state!
Sorry I have no good advise, just want to say good luck with getting her better mate
Advice Needed Urgently
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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puffertt77
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Myaj
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Ouch! Well, figuring in the teeth, it would make sense that she got startled and smashed into something.
I would agree, send Corvus a PM and see if he has any ideas, Pufferqueen might be a good one to ask as well, even though she's usually more into the saltwater species, she knows a heck of a lot about treatments.
If its blunt injury and not some sort of infection, I would think keeping the water as clean as possible and reducing all stress levels (activity around the tank, lighting, any tankmates that might harass her, etc) and give her time to heal.
Just throwing it out there, you double checked that your heater didn't go wonky or anything like that?
I would agree, send Corvus a PM and see if he has any ideas, Pufferqueen might be a good one to ask as well, even though she's usually more into the saltwater species, she knows a heck of a lot about treatments.
If its blunt injury and not some sort of infection, I would think keeping the water as clean as possible and reducing all stress levels (activity around the tank, lighting, any tankmates that might harass her, etc) and give her time to heal.
Just throwing it out there, you double checked that your heater didn't go wonky or anything like that?
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flash.dan
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
edmlfc1 wrote:Once you get her eyes better then you can trim her teeth. I have seen a puffer before with one side longer than the other, after a few bites out of a mussel the other side broke off and they were even again. I sure hope she starts to feel better soon.
i think if she pulls through i will get away without trimming them the point of the brak is gone so its flat and one is split upward... its pretty upsetting seeing her like that. just for info all heaters and wires are external in a sump appart from a koralia 4 none of her tankmates go near her they know not to mess her about shes just no responding to me at the glass its heartbreaking
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edmlfc1
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
That is just so heart breaking. 
Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
bit of a update. her eyes are almost completly filled with blood / fluid now she is free swimming but up/down and bumping into everything.
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
She probably just can't see. Try removing things with sharp corners, or wrapping them in something. That way, she won't bump into something else and hurt herself again.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
im so sorry to hear this Flash.dan, hope she begins to get better soon and recovers, all hugs and wishes xx
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flash.dan
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
she has now found a spot under the driftwood and is breathing very very hevilly. i hope she either restrs it out or goes peacefully overnight im heartbroken if she goes ill possibly contemplate selling up all my fish. i can imagine going looking in any tanks again without her greeting me out of the 3 mbus ive ever owned she is a little star so so soft and sweet
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lilacamy931
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
oh dan! you poor thing, everything is crossed that she makes it through Please keep updated more hugs xx
Please keep updated more hugs xx-
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
this is the saddest thread ever. I hope she makes it!
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flash.dan
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
woke up shes trying to swim but not oing a great job really heavy breathing anf im not so sure she can see atall put myhand right infront of her and stoked her. she wtilled injoyed me stroking her but didnt respond much. ive turned the lights off hope she goes peacefully now
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
This is sad.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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edmlfc1
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Here's a website that might help you:
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/diseases.html
I looked through it but couldn't find anything on bloody eyes. Maybe you can contact them and see what they tell you. Monday is a holiday here so I'm sure they won't be able to answer you until Tuesday. Did you send a pm to Corvus yet?
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/diseases.html
I looked through it but couldn't find anything on bloody eyes.
Maybe you can contact them and see what they tell you. Monday is a holiday here so I'm sure they won't be able to answer you until Tuesday. Did you send a pm to Corvus yet?Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
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flash.dan
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
shes still hanging in there.... for about 12 hours today she was at the top of the tank and for about 30 minutes just i noticed she was swimming around normally but no shes not better she was battling to swim must of drained her now shes back at the top of the tank not moving. im glad the flowerhorns and jags are leaving her alone. popped a mbu up for sale i got last week and my suvattis. if she goes ill sell up i think ..... might be the way i feel at the moment but still. her eye is almost completly filled with fluid. she has had epsom salt baths for 4 days now i have a big water change planned tomorrow in her tank i really cant see it helping but still doing all i can.