went out earlier came back cutiepie is at the top of the tank breaathing heavilly and has blood in her eyes! i cant take a picture as the camera is with my partner abroad but her eyes have blood in them. could this be a brain hemmerage? advice please!
sorry missed out 0 0 5 readings, nothing changed lately shes been fine!
Advice Needed Urgently
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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recombinantrider
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Oh no! Sorry I don't know how to help but could it be pop eye?
http://www.3reef.com/forums/fish-diseas ... 52901.html
melafix? I don't know. Someone please help!
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melafix? I don't know. Someone please help!
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
its not popeye but the outter edges of her eye are full f blood on both sides and it only appeared in 3 hours while i was at my mothers for dinner... i have never seen anythign liek it 
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edmlfc1
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Try this link:
http://www.petmd.com/fish/conditions/ey ... _Disorders - 45k
unfortunately I'm at work and we are using an old browser and I cannot upgrade.
This is what I did get to read:
http://www.petmd.com/fish/conditions/ey ... _Disorders - 45k
unfortunately I'm at work and we are using an old browser and I cannot upgrade.
This is what I did get to read:
Hope it works for you. If not when I get home in an hour I'll try again.Eye injuries usually occur during shipping and handling, especially if the fish is struggling. Blood in the eye, however, is generally due to infection or ...
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
i would presume any infection would be gradual this has just all came within a matter of hours from acting normal to this is shocking
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Is it possible that she injured it on driftwood or something in the tank?
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Some bacterial infections can go for a few days before they show any signs/symptoms. If it is both eyes I'm betting it's infection like the start of pop-eye or something on that line. Is the blood in the globe of the eye, on the outside of the eye, or in the tissue surrounding the eye?
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
the blood is in a thin ring on the outter edge of the eye the part that is usually yellow. she still hasnt moved all night att the top of the tank
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
That sounds like an infective process, more then likely bacterial. Hemorrage from the brain doesn't travel in to the eys as the eye is a closed globe and multi chambered. When you do see blood in the eye is is usually caused by broken vessels within the eye itself (trauma) or irritation (from infection or other source) with in the globe of the eye. To be honest I do not know what the treatment for an infection of the inside fo the eye would be for a fish. Gentimyacin or Tobramyacin is the normal treatment for humans and some different IV antibiotics.
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
ive added some tonic salts to her tank ill watch her and cross my fingers
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Shoot Corvus a PM. He knows, well, all kinds of stuff about bacterial things that I can't even begin to understand! 
I'm sure he'll have a solution.
I'm sure he'll have a solution."I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
i have only just noticed her teeth are cracked and a huge peice is missing off the point of the beak! has anyone ever heard of this? only thing i can think of to draw it together is if for some reason she swam into the glass at speed?
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Or into a hard piece of decoration. That's not at all unheard of. To my knowledge, the fish have always recovered easily, but this eye could be a complication.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
both her eyes look quite bad to be honest currently she is resting ontop of a koralia 4 literally millimetres from the top of the water
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Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Once you get her eyes better then you can trim her teeth. I have seen a puffer before with one side longer than the other, after a few bites out of a mussel the other side broke off and they were even again. I sure hope she starts to feel better soon.
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