Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Yay! Hopefully that is a sign that he's recovering!
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
That's GREAT! If you can, supplement them with vitamins to try and make up for what he's missed. That's a great sign! Woohoo!
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Poor little baby! 
Glad to see he's eating on his own. That's great news.
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
If I buy some liquid vitamins tomorrow would soaking the bloodworm in them be enough to get it into his system?LilGreenPuffer wrote:That's GREAT! If you can, supplement them with vitamins to try and make up for what he's missed. That's a great sign! Woohoo!
I can also treat the tank with ther vitamins
I just saw him doing a poo and it looked normal?!
I double checked to make sure it wasn't a bloodworm stuck underneath him and it def wasn't as he had a little speed round the tank and it didn't fall off
He's still only swimming on the bottom of the tank at athe mo
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
That's great. Yes, soaking the bloodworms ought to be fine, especially if you leave them in it overnight in the fridge.
I'd be at the bottom of the tank, too! I bet he's exhausted. That's all great news. Looks like he's taking a turn for the better!
I'd be at the bottom of the tank, too! I bet he's exhausted. That's all great news. Looks like he's taking a turn for the better!
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Most treatments for hexima are metronidazole based, it takes care of a range of smaller parasite types very effectively, and I recently found out treats certain internal bacterial infections as well. It's also VERY permiable, so it gets into an infected fish very effectively added just to the water. It's so well absorbed it even crosses the blood/brain barrier in humans rapidly, and it's a LOT more trouble to get through than a fish's gills, which is good news when a fish isn't eating a lot.
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Hey NickNick wrote:Most treatments for hexima are metronidazole based, it takes care of a range of smaller parasite types very effectively, and I recently found out treats certain internal bacterial infections as well. It's also VERY permiable, so it gets into an infected fish very effectively added just to the water. It's so well absorbed it even crosses the blood/brain barrier in humans rapidly, and it's a LOT more trouble to get through than a fish's gills, which is good news when a fish isn't eating a lot.
I just got the stuff and it's called Hexamita and it's made by Esha, it say's it's a Discus and Cichlids treatment but can be used for other Tropical fish
I also got some Epsom Salt and I want to treat both Bollo's tank and the main tank with both the Epsom Salt and Hexamita. Is it ok to treat the main tank with the epsom salt?
I just about to do it now so any help asap would be great
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Good to hear thats hes doing better.
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Here's the stuff I bought today
I've added it to Bollos tank and the main tank as Naboo seems a bit sluggish, I fed Naboo 2 prawns and the 3rd he left, was strange because he wasn't as excited as usual when I give him food (please don't be coming down with the same thing!)
I think I'm going to start feeding Bollo twice a day as he was desperatley gobbling down the food, he had a hard time swallowing it at first and was knida throwing his head back to swallow but then coughing them back up! once he got a few down though he seemed ok. He's moving a lot more but I can tell he's still very weak, he's still skooting round on his belly.
Here's a couple of vids of him eatting then looking a bit fatter, he's such a wally sometimes, the tank has a piece of acrylic stuck to the bottom as it came with the Mantis Shrimp. Rather than going for the big pile of bloodworms Bollo trys to get the ones that have got stuck under the acrylic
I think I'm going to start feeding Bollo twice a day as he was desperatley gobbling down the food, he had a hard time swallowing it at first and was knida throwing his head back to swallow but then coughing them back up! once he got a few down though he seemed ok. He's moving a lot more but I can tell he's still very weak, he's still skooting round on his belly.
Here's a couple of vids of him eatting then looking a bit fatter, he's such a wally sometimes, the tank has a piece of acrylic stuck to the bottom as it came with the Mantis Shrimp. Rather than going for the big pile of bloodworms Bollo trys to get the ones that have got stuck under the acrylic
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
He does look fatter! He's still so thin, poor baby! You've done a great job getting him through this. It looks like he'll do just fine!
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Thanks LilGreenPufferLilGreenPuffer wrote:He does look fatter! He's still so thin, poor baby! You've done a great job getting him through this. It looks like he'll do just fine!
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
A good vitamin suppliment is the 'vitazin' by waterlife. Ive used it before with stingrays when theyve come in a little underweight. Ive added it to food as most freshwater fish dont drink as its more a marine suppliment. Although with rays i just added it straight to the tank as they can drink.
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
I hope he gets better soon! Poor little guy. At least he has the best care he can get, which I'm sure, definitely helps. Keep us updated!
My lfs sells bloodworms that already have nutrients added to them, maybe yours does too. That might save you the effort of having to do it yourself?
Poor little guy. At least he has the best care he can get, which I'm sure, definitely helps. Keep us updated! My lfs sells bloodworms that already have nutrients added to them, maybe yours does too. That might save you the effort of having to do it yourself?
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
hey BWBBogwoodbruce wrote:A good vitamin suppliment is the 'vitazin' by waterlife. Ive used it before with stingrays when theyve come in a little underweight. Ive added it to food as most freshwater fish dont drink as its more a marine suppliment. Although with rays i just added it straight to the tank as they can drink.
Funny you should mention that stuff you just reminded me to get some more as I ran out a few weeks ago
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Re: Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(
Thanks Kattykatty wrote:I hope he gets better soon!
My lfs sells bloodworms that already have nutrients added to them, maybe yours does too. That might save you the effort of having to do it yourself?
I've never seen that in my LFS
Bollos staying fatter for longer so things are looking good