treating fahaka help
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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digger
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treating fahaka help
Iwas treating my Fahaka for IPs. I used prazipro at regular dose. It has been about 24 hours and now his anus looks swollen other than that it seems to be acting fine. Do I need to be concerned also his feces is still white but more stringy than before. Someone please help.
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Re: treating fahaka help
Don't worry! It takes more than twenty-four hours to deworm! The increased stringiness is a sign that the worms are dying off, and he's now pooping them out. This is a good sign.
A swollen anus is just a normal part of the process, not always present, but often.
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A swollen anus is just a normal part of the process, not always present, but often.
Welcome to the forum!
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digger
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Re: treating fahaka help
thank you I have never seen this issue with prazi pro on any other fish. He also seems very sluggish I was just very nervous.
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Re: treating fahaka help
Are there red worms around the anus area? I ask because Annabelle had this and her anus was extremely swollen. Click on this link and scroll down for pictures.
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digger
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Re: treating fahaka help
It was that swollen but I did not see the worms like that. I got home from work today at 6pm, and my girlfriend told me he has not moved all day. When I went up to the tank he came out briefly than went back to his cave I did a 30-40% water change before introducing the prazipro, I'm wondering if I should do another water change.
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Re: treating fahaka help
Is this day 2 of the treatment? If it is you need to do one more day of treatment then do a large water change. Annabelle did the same thing when I treated her with prazipro. She sulked, she wouldn't eat and she made me sick with worry. After treatment it took her over a week for her to start eating again. Do you have any airstones in the tank? Sometimes the meds will bring the oxygen level down. If you don't have any in there I would add some just to be safe.
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Re: treating fahaka help
Btw: it took about 2-3 weeks for the anus swelling to go down.
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Re: treating fahaka help
thanks for the info this seems to be completely different than any other fish I have had to medicate. Also if you didn't give me that info I would have had a heart attack but I will just continue to keep a close eye.
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Re: treating fahaka help
edmlfc1 is our resident expert in treating puffers with such things. She has brougnt her fahaka back from certain death & did a ton of research on this very same problem you are having.
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Re: treating fahaka help
I'd just like to thank everyone and this site for being so helpful. I did a big wc yesterday and have been keeping a close eye on him. Although he's still not eating he is coming out more. Had it not have been for this site I would have had a heart attack by now. Hopefully he will start eating soon.
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Re: treating fahaka help
It's a normal thing for them to stop eating after using prazipro. 
Try to feed him a little each day or even a couple of times a day. If he dosen't eat take the food out then try again later. 
Eventually he will become a little piggy begging for food. 
Try to feed him a little each day or even a couple of times a day. If he dosen't eat take the food out then try again later. Eventually he will become a little piggy begging for food. Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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Re: treating fahaka help
FINALLY!!!! My Fahaka ate last night. What was really funny about the whole thing was that while he was eating he kept looking at me like, "This doesn't mean we're friends" 
as soon as he was done he was done he faced the back of the tank and started to sulk again but for me thats a big sign of improvement. Once again thank you, pretty much happened just as you said it would.
My Fahaka ate last night. What was really funny about the whole thing was that while he was eating he kept looking at me like, "This doesn't mean we're friends" as soon as he was done he was done he faced the back of the tank and started to sulk again but for me thats a big sign of improvement. Once again thank you, pretty much happened just as you said it would.-
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Re: treating fahaka help
You gotta love a puffer's attitude! Glad to hear he's eating! Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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digger
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Re: treating fahaka help
I have had many different fish, but I have never seen fish with such personalities. Puffers are incredible.
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Re: treating fahaka help
Good to hear he's eating. 
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
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