Bollo my SAP is not looking good :(

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LilGreenPuffer wrote:I think the dose is 1tsp/10g, but double-check that.
Sorry LGP I just realised you already stated how to use it
marksrush wrote:I don't know that I'd use any Epsom salts at this point, as he'll probably expel the worms fine without it and it would be added stress to the already hurting fish. If you do decide to treat him with the salts, the dose is normally 1 tablespoon for each 5 gallons - or at least, that's what I've used effectively in the past. And yes, you can get it at any pharmacy or at Walmart. You would let him stay in the salt-treated water for a day to two days, then do a water change.

Not eating for a few days after deworming is normal.
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I've just spoke to my LFS and she said they have a 3 day treatment available that should work, it say's on the packet that it treats IP as well as a few other things. I'm going to buy that and get some Epson Salt for when the time comes. I'm setting up the hospital tank for him again, I'm gona have to make a small filter using some of the media out of my main tanks filter as the one I used before is now on the Dp's tank.

Here's a quick vid of Bollo, when he's not swimming into the side of the container he swims into the bottom
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I never managed to get to the LFS tonight but I've setup Bollo's hospital tank. I also made a bio filter using the fibre and bio tubes from my main tanks ext-filter. I put a good few handfulls into a bottle and the cut up the fiblre and put that in on top. I then put a tube from my powerhead into it so that it forces water through the fibre and through/around the bio tubes, I heated a skewer and made loads of holes in the bottom of the bottle to let the water flow through the bottle. I keep an eye on the water quality to make sure it's working properly.

Bollo's back is also starting to sink in, I'm thinking of treating the water with both the meds the lady at the LFS suggested and Epsom Salt at the same time, I don't think Bollo's got long since he's not eatting and getting skinnier and skinnier!

Here's a vid, at the start you can really see how his back has also started to sink in
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You can treat the tank, but once the back starts sinking in, I think it's a lost cause.
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poor baby, I hope he gets better soon :(
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Christemo wrote:You can treat the tank, but once the back starts sinking in, I think it's a lost cause.
The back sinking is a sign it's all over :( Dame!

I'm still gona get the meds and try my best to save him, he's a lot more active now than he was, I'll just have to wait and see
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lilacamy931 wrote:poor baby, I hope he gets better soon :(
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:( he looks so sad..


hope he turns around
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Is the Mbu in the same tank? If so hows he doing?
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Bogwoodbruce wrote:Is the Mbu in the same tank? If so hows he doing?
Yeah Naboo's in the same main tank and is doing fine, none of the other fish are showing any bad signs
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Get well soon Bollo! :(
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I hope that he comes around ok dude :(
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Irisis wrote:Get well soon Bollo! :(
Bogwoodbruce wrote:I hope that he comes around ok dude :(
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Oh, no! Poor Bollo! Now, it's not a definitive sign that it's all over once the back starts sinking in. I would try force-feeding, and now. He didn't look so bad from the photos, but the videos look really, really bad. Contact edlmfc1 about it, pronto.
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What is the name of the med you got from the store? I hope it works.
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Nick wrote:What is the name of the med you got from the store? I hope it works.
I'll find out tomorrow what it's called Nick. I couldn't get to that LFS and my local LFS didn't have the stuff (I've got it written down on a piece of paper which I've now lost! think it was Hexiham or something)
LilGreenPuffer wrote:Oh, no! Poor Bollo! Now, it's not a definitive sign that it's all over once the back starts sinking in. I would try force-feeding, and now. He didn't look so bad from the photos, but the videos look really, really bad. Contact edlmfc1 about it, pronto.
I put some bloodworm in Bollo's tank and he ate some of them :D I've put more in there just in case he wants some more. Saying that I've just looked in there from where I'm sitting and he's eatting again! I guess this is a good sign, I hope he continues to eat over the next few days. As I said to Nick I need to get that 3 day course med tomorrow, I'll also get the salt you suggested

Here's a vid of him eatting
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