Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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So, what kind of tank do you have this in?
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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Before all you guys jump on the "GIANT" boat, take a gander at the 2 adult GSPs of mine here:

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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Pufferpunk wrote:Before all you guys jump on the "GIANT" boat, take a gander at the 2 adult GSPs of mine here:

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That's actually exactly what I was thinking, and thus why I asked what size the puffer was.... :)
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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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LilGreenPuffer wrote:So, what kind of tank do you have this in?
Saltwater as of now, but I will change it if need be...
pinkfloydpuffer wrote:
Pufferpunk wrote:Before all you guys jump on the "GIANT" boat, take a gander at the 2 adult GSPs of mine here:

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When you are saying GSP your talking about green spotted puffers right?

That's actually exactly what I was thinking, and thus why I asked what size the puffer was.... :)
Well at the store it was kept in a really small area thus it proabably isn't at it's full size.
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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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def not a ceylon. i would go with either a giant green spot or GSP. not sure if there's really much a difference in care between them other than tank size. i suppose i should brush up on my pufferpedia info. either way nice looking puffer you got there. how big of a tank is it in again?
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side19 wrote:how big of a tank is it in again?
24 gallons but I am wanting to move it into at least a upper 40's to 60 gallon tank next year (sorry, I know that I should have a larger tank avalibal but our budget is kind of tight right now). :(

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Re: Is this a Ceylon, Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Definitely not a Ceylon, as it's missing the black saddles that puffertt77 mentioned. My vote is giant spotted, too.
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Re: Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Hmm, could be GSP or giant spotted. If he's at full marine and showing no signs of stress, probalby GSP - giant spotteds react very poorly to high SG, prefering hard fresh water or very very low brackish, at least from Hilly's feedback, and the info we got from that couple that found they were doing well in a community tank.
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Re: Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Tough call. How large is it?

It looks kind of like a big GSP, kind of like a sab in the face.. I would not say Ceylon though.

What makes it difficult to say is we don't see many full grown, completely mature GSP's, and their body shape does change as they reach the larger sizes...
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Nick wrote:Hmm, could be GSP or giant spotted. If he's at full marine and showing no signs of stress, probalby GSP - giant spotteds react very poorly to high SG, prefering hard fresh water or very very low brackish, at least from Hilly's feedback, and the info we got from that couple that found they were doing well in a community tank.
Then what should I do if that's the case? Should I remove the salt (I don't know how much is atucally in it)? Remove the live rock?
Myaj wrote:What makes it difficult to say is we don't see many full grown, completely mature GSP's, and their body shape does change as they reach the larger sizes...
What do you mean by that?
Myaj wrote:Tough call. How large is it?
I will make a rough guessitmation of three to four and a half inches or so.
Myaj wrote: It looks kind of like a big GSP, kind of like a sab in the face..
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Re: Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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Does it seem irritated or stressed most of the time? Sabahensis would show stress VERY quickly at full marine conditions - they show stress quickly at sg 1.005, it being too high for them, at full marine, I think you'd know very quickly. GSPs do change shape quite a bit as they get old, Shakespeare is starting to look quite a bit different from my icon over the past year, I may have to snap a new photo of him.
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Nick wrote:Does it seem irritated or stressed most of the time?
Does swiming up and down the glass of the tank count? He doesn't seem that bad off though, but I am probably missing the signs if that is the case...
Nick wrote:Sabahensis would show stress VERY quickly at full marine conditions - they show stress quickly at sg 1.005, it being too high for them, at full marine, I think you'd know very quickly.
I don't actually what would the signs be?
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Re: Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

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I can answer your first question; the second will have to wait for someone who actually knows about SW. Swimming up and down in front of the glass is usually a sign of boredom. If you can, you should get lots of nice, tall decorations/plants (fake is fine)/driftwood/caves and such to keep him entertained.
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Re: Is this a Green Spotted, or Giant Spotted Puffer?

Post by Myaj »

Sab's usually turn black or dark and blah pretty quickly when they are unhappy, and get very inactive. My guess is if your guy's color is good and its swimming around, then its pretty happy in whatever type of water you have it in.

I'd lean towards just a big old close to adulthood GSP... the body/face shape is what is making it not look like a GSP, but it could very well be an adult body shape, like what Pufferpunk posted.
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