hey everyone. sorry its been a while since i last logged on. school has been sort of hectic the past few weeks. anyway i finally got Ra moved into his new home and have slowly been working on the SG. the current parims are
ammonia-0
nitrite-0
nitrate-0 (just did a water change yesterday)
pH-7.6
i noticed last night before i went to bed that his vent looked really really big but there was nothing coming out of it. i stayed up a little longer to see him pooing clear poo. after that his vent still seemed big and reddish, but then shortly went back to the normal size. i got scared and treated the tank with jungle parasite clear tablets (only used one becuase he's in a 12 gallon) and went to bed. i woke up and checked on him this morning. he's acting normal but i've been noticing his vent will go from really big and noticeable to normal periodically over the hour that i've been watching him. do you think it could be IPs? and if so how could he have gotten them? he didn't have any when i got him and i've been feeding him frozen bloodworms every day and snails twice every week for his teeth (other than last week becuase i got to the store after they had finished cleaning all the tank and had gotten rid of the snails). anyway i don't want to lose another f8 to IPs and i've really grown attached to Ra. any help would be great. i'm picking up some tonic salt after school today and hoping that might help a little. any insight would be great. thanks.
possible IPs?
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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side19
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Re: possible IPs?
ok so i've been watching him poo through out the day now and its back to being dark brow (almost black) and every one is different. at first they just started our really thin compared to normal. now its like its coming out in lumps on a string. the colors are varying from light brown to almost black, and sometimes the lumps look connected by clearish strands. is he pooing out dead worms or is he constipated or is it something else? i really don't want to lose him too like the other f8s i've had.
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edmlfc1
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Re: possible IPs?
I would continue to treat him for IP's. It sounds like he's passing some already. 
I treated Annabelle twice then found out 3 months later she had a tapeworm.
All I can think of is that maybe some IP's just don't die with the first treatment. I still don't fully understand it.
I treated Annabelle twice then found out 3 months later she had a tapeworm.
All I can think of is that maybe some IP's just don't die with the first treatment. I still don't fully understand it.
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Re: possible IPs?
well he has been pooing like that all day so i'm hoping its him passing worms. i still about about 2 more doses worth of tablets left so it will last me 4 more days after tomorrow. i also picked up some tonic salt. do you think if i add a little it will help? or do you think that since his water is already slightly salty (SG of 1.004) it really won't do anything?
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ROTTEN76
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Re: possible IPs?
Is he still eating?
How big is he?
Raising the salinity by .002 a week for two weeks would be better than using tonic salt.
How big is he?
Raising the salinity by .002 a week for two weeks would be better than using tonic salt.
Grant me the serenity to accept that I can't take every puffer home;
The courage to say no to those big eyes looking back at me;
And the wisdom to do every thing I can for the ones that I have.
The courage to say no to those big eyes looking back at me;
And the wisdom to do every thing I can for the ones that I have.
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side19
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- Location: Manchester, CT
Re: possible IPs?
yes he is still eating, and very well at that. relishing frozen blood worms and had snails for the first time in about two weeks today. wasn't sure what to do with them at first but once he remembered they were food he hunted the rest down pretty quickly. he's a little under 2" right now. and yeah i've been raising the sg by about .001-.002 per week since i put him in the tank (2.5 weeks ago-ish).
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ROTTEN76
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Re: possible IPs?
Soak the bloodworms in AP meds, vitamins and continue raising the SG weekly, he should be fine.
Grant me the serenity to accept that I can't take every puffer home;
The courage to say no to those big eyes looking back at me;
And the wisdom to do every thing I can for the ones that I have.
The courage to say no to those big eyes looking back at me;
And the wisdom to do every thing I can for the ones that I have.
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edmlfc1
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Re: possible IPs?
If he's been poohing whitish all day then it sounds like he's passing worms. There's no need to add aquarium salt if yourside19 wrote:well he has been pooing like that all day so i'm hoping its him passing worms. i still about about 2 more doses worth of tablets left so it will last me 4 more days after tomorrow. i also picked up some tonic salt. do you think if i add a little it will help? or do you think that since his water is already slightly salty (SG of 1.004) it really won't do anything?
sg is 1.004. Just keep treating him for the worms. I treated Annabelle for up to 5 days. If you did one treatment and you have 4 more days , then your good.
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Re: possible IPs?
good to know. yeah he's still pooing like that today. dark brown clumps on a whitish string. he's acting himself and still very hungry. giving him the second dose tonight after a water change. will keep you all updated. thanks.
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edmlfc1
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Re: possible IPs?
I noticed about a week after I finished Annabelle's treatment she had one last pooh mixed with brown and a little white. If you notice this in a week or so don't panic. Sometimes it takes time to get it all out.
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