Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
This second bout of IPs looks more mucus-ey and less worm-ey - I'd say protozoan IPs, which have multiplied now that the tapeworm is dead. The flubendazole and metronidazole should be effective on them, but may take more time to work. Metronidazole can be added to the water as well, it can be absorbed through the gills, and will kill lingering protozoans from poo that may be in the filter or gravel. Metronidazole, while not a reliable treatment in itself, will help kill freeswimming ich.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Here's a picture this morning. It still has mucus and just one stringy in it.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Such a poor girl, and she's looking gorgeous through the whole ordeal!
Now that is a REAL puffer
I'd agree though, while I"m not an expert, I'd say this isn't tapeworm-looking, but either just an irritated digestive system not digesting the shrimp all that well or the work of other, less harmful parasites...
Now that is a REAL puffer
I'd agree though, while I"m not an expert, I'd say this isn't tapeworm-looking, but either just an irritated digestive system not digesting the shrimp all that well or the work of other, less harmful parasites...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Here's a good close up of Annabelle's new ip's. After reading an article in another forum it don't sound good at all. 
According to the website it's called Camallanus cotti and Camallanus lacustris, can anyone confirm this for me?
Symptoms:Inflammation in the vent area and might have been passing whitish, mucusy feces.
Suggestions:
The best thing you can do is net out the sufferer, gently euthanise it. If the fish is too far gone.
Treatment:Levamisole hydrochloride (effective as anti-worming agent), fenbendazole, fresh garlic extracts.
Her vent looks just like the one in the picture on their website. Someone please please please tell me what to do!
Here's the website (scroll down to post #36 the 3rd picture in the post):
http://www.fishforum.com/tropical-fish- ... 179/page4/
According to the website it's called Camallanus cotti and Camallanus lacustris, can anyone confirm this for me?
Symptoms:Inflammation in the vent area and might have been passing whitish, mucusy feces.
Suggestions:
The best thing you can do is net out the sufferer, gently euthanise it. If the fish is too far gone.
Treatment:Levamisole hydrochloride (effective as anti-worming agent), fenbendazole, fresh garlic extracts.
Her vent looks just like the one in the picture on their website.
Someone please please please tell me what to do!Here's the website (scroll down to post #36 the 3rd picture in the post):
http://www.fishforum.com/tropical-fish- ... 179/page4/
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Well, the bright side is, Anabelle does not look "Too far gone". I betcha she has a good fighting chance!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I sent a private message to the guy, hopefully I'll get an answer from him soon.
I've also been keeping a diary on everything I've done, I told him in the pm if he wants me to send a copy of the diary to shoot me an email. I am going out of my mind right now! I'm so upset!
I've also been keeping a diary on everything I've done, I told him in the pm if he wants me to send a copy of the diary to shoot me an email. I am going out of my mind right now! I'm so upset!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Oh no! Looks like it, but I think she can beat them with meds. She's a strong girl! ♥
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Well I kind of got a response. I was asked to meet in the chat room so we could talk but I couldn't get in. 
Not enough post is what it said, I was denied acess! 
Don't they know this is an emergency! 
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Start mass posting threads... that'll get attention.
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edmlfc1 wrote:A house without a puffer is not a home.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I actually thought about that.Jase wrote:Start mass posting threads... that'll get attention.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I went post-sparkler and I'm in!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Well, it seems to me that Annabelle's infestation isn't at the "Severest" level. I would treat her and the tank hard with worming the worming meds suggested. Is she still eating? If it doesn't seem to be eating enough you may want to consider force feeding again with the meds mixed in.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Feeding her small amounts twice a day with food soaked in gel-tek. She eat's every bit of it and begs for more. But I don't give in.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
OMG! She'll have to be all right. She made it this far. Seriously, she's done amazingly... why shouldn't she be able to beat this one?
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
what'd they say in chat?
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