Mbu hasn't eating much
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Thanks-how do I know when to dc the treatments? I have done 2 and tonight would be a 3rd if I need to. I see a long -something-coming from his bum-I assume that is the parasite coming out-should I dose 1 more time or does that mean its dead? Thanks
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Please read the Anabelle thread in this forum. I'd treat with Prazi.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Thanks for the post. I cannot find PraziPro locally so I am dosing a 3rd time with Parasite Clear-I cant imagine I'd get the PraziPro before Wednesday. I'll use if if he still seems this way. He did eat some Krill on Friday-saw it on the bottom and attacked it like he always did. I felt joyful, but he is returned to listlessness on the bottom. The parasite is now about 4" and swimming behind him. I have raised the temp in the tank-will shoot for 85. Any other thoughts?
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
What are the ingredients in Parasite Clear?
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
praziquantel; N-[[(N-Chlorophenyl)amino]carbon 1]-2,6-difluorobenzamide; metronidazole; acriflavine. Perhaps the Prazipro is the same as praziquantel? He has swam for a couple minutes here and there. What do you think Pufferpunk-what would you do at this point if he were your puffer?
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Same stuff, keep treating the water & try to get some if it inside him.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
johnniek wrote:The parasite is now about 4" and swimming behind him. I have raised the temp in the tank-will shoot for 85. Any other thoughts?
Does it look like this? Sorry for the graphic picture.


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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Yea-mostly. It was a little skinnier but after about 6" it's gone.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
How do I get the med inside him?
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
If he's eating soak his food in it before feeding. I would soak it for no less than 30 minutes. If possible soak it over night in the refigerator.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
That picture was enlarged so that people can see up close what it looks like. The worm itself was skinny. Annabelle is only about 6" long, the tapeworm in the picture ended up being about 24" long and it took her about 6-7 days to expell all of it.johnniek wrote:Yea-mostly. It was a little skinnier but after about 6" it's gone.
It would break off in sections.
As pufferpunk suggested you really need to check out Annabelle's post. Just because he passed a small amount it dosen't mean it's over. There could still be more in him. I'm still dealing with Annabelle's worm problem. I have pictures and details of everything I have done so far in the post. Here's the link, it may help you.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Thank you for the info-I'll read it all again. What do I do if he's not eating-to get the med in him? And, how many times can I dose with the parasite clear in a row? Thanks
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
I'm not sure about parasite clear, I used prazipro and now I'm using gel-tek. If he's not eating then you can use finquel and tube feed him.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
I've used the parasite clear up to 5 times in a row at 48 hour intervals, but did at least 50%(usually more like 75-80) water changes to keep acriflavine from building up in the water.
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Re: Mbu hasn't eating much
Parasite Clear has Prazi in it, so it should work, unless the amounts are very diluted, compared to straight Prazi.
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