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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Pufferpunk
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Interesting...
What do you guys think of this product? http://www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/ ... 1&catId=14
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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lisalisa
hmm..while I've never personally tried this product, I feel it's grounds have merit. When I was treating a tang for ich a while back with copper, a lot of it's 'good bacteria' was killed, which happens oftern with tangs, and I could have used a marine or tang version of this...has anyone used this before?
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Jager
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lisalisa
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Jager
ooo i forgot that... grrr
There is one and only ONE organic based anti ich med that our pet store uses on minor cases with extremely good success with NO tank fallout issues. other than needing a partial after use. granted its in a huge system so its diluted, but id trust it in a q/t tank as well as my old standbys for last defense. the nitro fuzo mixed antibiotic and the formulin.
I will grab the name, but i still use no meds on any fish until lower sg is tried or ruled out (some tangs and angels dont do lower sgs....) also some fish must only be dipped as they dont survive any long term meds with success.
Ill put up a thing on dipping fish in medicated water soon when i can get it proofed. anybody wanna take a stab at proofing it? i can email it to you.
also an anti copper rant
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copper use on most fish seems to also be a prey on newbies thing. I do this to those who try to tell me copper in the hands of newbies is OK
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ROFL
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There is one and only ONE organic based anti ich med that our pet store uses on minor cases with extremely good success with NO tank fallout issues. other than needing a partial after use. granted its in a huge system so its diluted, but id trust it in a q/t tank as well as my old standbys for last defense. the nitro fuzo mixed antibiotic and the formulin.
I will grab the name, but i still use no meds on any fish until lower sg is tried or ruled out (some tangs and angels dont do lower sgs....) also some fish must only be dipped as they dont survive any long term meds with success.
Ill put up a thing on dipping fish in medicated water soon when i can get it proofed. anybody wanna take a stab at proofing it? i can email it to you.
also an anti copper rant
:6:
copper use on most fish seems to also be a prey on newbies thing. I do this to those who try to tell me copper in the hands of newbies is OK
:4:
ROFL
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lisalisa
I have to agree. I treated with copper a few years ago before I knew how potent and deadly it can be. I wish someone had told me back then!Jager wrote:
also an anti copper rant
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copper use on most fish seems to also be a prey on newbies thing. I do this to those who try to tell me copper in the hands of newbies is OK
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lisalisa
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Jager
. i have one very old bottle of copper and its in its own tank all by itself in the attic. just incase, but it has not been used for years.-
Jager
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Feathers&Fins
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- My Puffers: Pufferless since Nova passed; had 2 red T.miuris, 4 T.biocellatus for many years.
- Location (country): KY (USA)
- Location: (US) Kentucky
Pami, this article might make you feel better. Maybe someone can chime in on its validity.Pamela wrote:I used malachite green on my dudes when they had ich 18 months ago. I know I'll regret it eventually, but I really didn't know any better.
Pami.
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/copper.html