... I hope there's not eggs
Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
YAY! glad to hear the good sign.
... I hope there's not eggs
... I hope there's not eggs
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Wouldn't you keep on treating for the worm long after it's passed for the eggs?
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edmlfc1
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
If I keep treating her it won't kill the eggs until the eggs hatch. I'm going to wait a while (maybe 3-4 weeks) and treat her again. First I have got to get her to eat on her own. That's my next priority.
A big "THANK YOU" to everyone that helped me through this and those that gave support along the way!
A big "THANK YOU" to everyone that helped me through this and those that gave support along the way!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
I'm so glad to hear she's doing well! Here's to no more worms! 
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
well done to you and puffer. It's been traumatic! Now to the feeding! 
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
I'm so relieved to hear that! Hunt and eat, Annabelle, you can do it!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
...........here's a big huggin for annabelle and her puffer mom.....whooooohwooooo.....i'm soooooooooo relieved.....
now eat annabelle....you and your mom have gone thru enough about now young lady.....
Ra says eat it's soooo good.......
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Pufferpunk,
Annabelle is still not eating. I posted in marine depot for pufferqueen and she has not answered. I tried to send her a private message but her box is full. The finquel will be here friday. I'm going to try and tube feed her. I have a few questions:
How often can I use finquel?
I read that you should use 1 dose of finquel and 1 dose of baking soda. If I use her tank water with finquel do I still need to dose it with baking soda? Does it change the ph?
I tried to feed her again with the syringe, she starts to roll like an alligator and spits it all out. I've tried holding her but I don't want to hurt her. She's fine when I scoop her out of the tank and when I hold her in the bowl but once I get the syringe in her mouth she goes into a death roll. I feel like this is my only other option.
Annabelle is still not eating. I posted in marine depot for pufferqueen and she has not answered. I tried to send her a private message but her box is full. The finquel will be here friday. I'm going to try and tube feed her. I have a few questions:
How often can I use finquel?
I read that you should use 1 dose of finquel and 1 dose of baking soda. If I use her tank water with finquel do I still need to dose it with baking soda? Does it change the ph?
I tried to feed her again with the syringe, she starts to roll like an alligator and spits it all out. I've tried holding her but I don't want to hurt her. She's fine when I scoop her out of the tank and when I hold her in the bowl but once I get the syringe in her mouth she goes into a death roll. I feel like this is my only other option.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
The baking soda is to make your water harder, because Finquil will work faster in harder water, slower in softer water.
What is your water like now? If you have soft water, the baking soda will be a good idea, but if your water is hard, you shouldn't need it. The instructions that come with the Finquil will explain it. Hmm, actually, they don't talk about it at all now that I'm looking at them. I know I read it somewhere...
I can't believe she looks this good after everything she's been through. Wow, you're doing a great job. Have you tried mixing any Garlic Guard or anything like that in the pureed shrimp?
What is your water like now? If you have soft water, the baking soda will be a good idea, but if your water is hard, you shouldn't need it. The instructions that come with the Finquil will explain it. Hmm, actually, they don't talk about it at all now that I'm looking at them. I know I read it somewhere...
I can't believe she looks this good after everything she's been through. Wow, you're doing a great job. Have you tried mixing any Garlic Guard or anything like that in the pureed shrimp?
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Tapeworm does not lay eggs in the host. The body segments called proglottids drop off in the feces and are ingested by snails/clams/shrimp ect, and then they hatch and go through a few stages of devellopment in the intermediary host. The puffer then finds these crunchy nummies and eats them..and on and on it goes, it's the song that never ends..Pufferpunk wrote:YIPPEE!!! She's worm free! Unless they layed eggs in her...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
So Pandora, How does she prevent re-infestation?
I used the Finquil with just tank water & he went out fine.
I used the Finquil with just tank water & he went out fine.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Sounds great thanks. It should be here today.
My water in her tank is Amm.0, nitrite 0, nitrate 0, ph 7.0-7.2 I'll have to test it again. The ph went up a little after all the water changes.
My water in her tank is Amm.0, nitrite 0, nitrate 0, ph 7.0-7.2 I'll have to test it again. The ph went up a little after all the water changes.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Thanks Myaj,Myaj wrote: I can't believe she looks this good after everything she's been through. Wow, you're doing a great job. Have you tried mixing any Garlic Guard or anything like that in the pureed shrimp?
I've been using extreme garlic. She was so close last night. She went over to the piece of shrimp bit it then spit it out. She's being stubborn. She has been very active the last few days, swimming all over the tank chasing guppies, and ghost shrimp. Although I haven't seen her eat any. I've tried clam, mussell, crab and shrimp soaked in extreme garlic and I'll try again tonight. She acts intrested in the food but she just won't eat it.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
Basicly, she has to make sure any live food that is NOT eaten like right away, is taken out of the tank.Pufferpunk wrote:So Pandora, How does she prevent re-infestation?
I used the Finquil with just tank water & he went out fine.
There is no real way to prevent re-infestation. All mollusks have the potential to carry it, even human grade foods *hence why we cook it*
She should just keep treating her every 3 months with gel-tek or whatever as a preventative...this tapeworm is zoonotic...aka humans can get it too...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
I beleve in the olden days, women used tapeworms as a weight loss remedy. EEEEEEWWWWWW!!!
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