Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Just get more food in there to force the rest of the worm out. No need for epsom salts right now.
She needs something in there to keep the peristalsis going.
She needs something in there to keep the peristalsis going.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
She just tried to catch a guppie! Yeah!!!!!!!

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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
After seeing her intrest in the guppy I tried to get her to eat a piece of shrimp. She got close to it then swam away. I'll try again later. She looks like she's in hunting mode right now. Way more active than she has been in the last few days. Looks like she's starting to come around. I am so relieved!
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MatthewLaw
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
wow awesome..congrats... she appears to be on her way back!
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
maybe get some river shrimp now... honestly, they are great.. and cos they're clear they think no one can see them.. but they can, and puffers love them..
Feed them up with algae wafers or similar and then throw them in.. she'll be able to hunt them down easy.. and it'll get her eating.
or maybe a worm, like PP said..
Feed them up with algae wafers or similar and then throw them in.. she'll be able to hunt them down easy.. and it'll get her eating.
or maybe a worm, like PP said..
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I've tried worms and she's not intrested.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Got up to check on Annabelle and she just passed another 5 inches of worm. Part of it had this orange ball attached. It looked like egg yolk.
She still will not eat on her own, I tried about 6 times today. I took her out and got about 1ml of food in her this time. I'll let her rest all day tomorrow and then try to get her to eat again on tuesday.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
That sounds like she may have passed the head. My hunting dogs had tapeworm (they like to eat deer poop, go figure, eh') and that is what the head looked like when they passed it.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
After having followed your story for a few days its good to hear that Annabelle is finally starting to have a turn for the better... hopefully she'll pull the rest of the way through...
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I hope you're right. That would mean this is over! For now anyway.Dadof4 wrote:That sounds like she may have passed the head. My hunting dogs had tapeworm (they like to eat deer poop, go figure, eh') and that is what the head looked like when they passed it.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Dadof4 know's his worm.....
Annabelle has black pooh!
NO MORE WORM!!!!!!
Annabelle has black pooh!
NO MORE WORM!!!!!!
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
awesome (assuming black poo is not an indication of anything wrong, right?)
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
You are right. Black pooh is good pooh. I tried to get her to eat on her own, still no go. She's getting smarter with the syring feeding. She was calm in the net, she was calm when I put the bowl in the tank and scooped her out. Then I put the syringe in her mouth and she started rolling like an alligator. She managed to spit almost all of the food out. I'm not sure I got anything in her this time. I'll keep trying until she starts eating again.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) No more worms!
YIPPEE!!! She's worm free! Unless they layed eggs in her...
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