45 gallon tank
Nitrate 10, nitrite 0, GH 150, clorine 0, KH 180-300, PH 7.0
2 balas, 4 commets, 1 dwarf gourami, 3 barbs, 1 farowella, 1 Chinese algae eater, 1 gold dojo loach, 1 ghost shrimp, 1 elephant fish, 1 red tailed shark. About 39.5" total including tails.
Recent changes; daily water changes for 3-4 days to get the nitrates down.
The elephant fish is new from yesterday, but the shark's symptoms pre-date the new (adorable) tank mate.
Symptoms; one protuding eye, a little sluggish. Colors are _normal_, eye looks healthy in all respects other than it protudes more than the other. Hiding more than usual. He/she is still a dark black with a bright red tail.
All other fish seem healthy, I did have a bala with one cloudy eye that cleared on it's own in under 48 hours.
Interactions; the elephant fish took over his/her favorite hidey-hole, much to my dispair as well since I prepped him a nice PVC tunnel to live in.
Is it something I just didn't notice before?
Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Hawkeye649
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Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
You could treat the tank with melafix and pimafix, this should help his eye. Also you are going to have big problems with nitrates. You will have to upgrade your tank or bring some fish back to the lfs. The tank is overstocked and the high nitrates may be what caused his popeye.
Can you post a picture of the eye?
Can you post a picture of the eye?
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
The stocking of the tank has been gone over thoroughly in a previous post 
He's aware and will be making changes.
Popeye, as in the disease, is usually both eyes. I would guess its an injury, and therefore clean water, some Melafix and maybe Pimafix would help heal it up. Keep an eye on that algae eater.. they have a rep for sucking out eyes...
He's aware and will be making changes.Popeye, as in the disease, is usually both eyes. I would guess its an injury, and therefore clean water, some Melafix and maybe Pimafix would help heal it up. Keep an eye on that algae eater.. they have a rep for sucking out eyes...
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
Sorry! 
I must have slept through that post.
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
Nah, it got moved down to the freshwater forum when it was clear he couldn't add a puffer to his current list and the discussion turned to all freshwater non-puffer fish.
Easy to miss if you don't go to the non-puffer forums very often (I rarely do, and just have had the time recently with being off work all week. I was very, very surprised how many actual puffer posts are down there in the brackish, non-puffer forum, people must be posting there by accident)
Easy to miss if you don't go to the non-puffer forums very often (I rarely do, and just have had the time recently with being off work all week. I was very, very surprised how many actual puffer posts are down there in the brackish, non-puffer forum, people must be posting there by accident)
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
Unfortunately no, right now my Internet acces is limited to an iPod touch. Also it would be a 1 in a million shot to photograph unless I anestitised him and put him on a table, and since I think it's something I didn't notice or a possible injury I don't think that would be worth the stress.
Myaj; have you looked at the nitrate watch recently? Even with the addition of the elephant fish nitrates are holding at 10.
Still no improvement, but it also isn't worse. I still don't think it could be the algae eater because the shark shows no fear of him, and if I had to decide who picked on who before it was the shark picking on the algae eater. Even now in his hidey state the algae eater isn't picking on him.
I haven't seen the shark poop in a while either, he hasn't been cleaning my decorations for a few days now...
Myaj; have you looked at the nitrate watch recently? Even with the addition of the elephant fish nitrates are holding at 10.
Still no improvement, but it also isn't worse. I still don't think it could be the algae eater because the shark shows no fear of him, and if I had to decide who picked on who before it was the shark picking on the algae eater. Even now in his hidey state the algae eater isn't picking on him.
I haven't seen the shark poop in a while either, he hasn't been cleaning my decorations for a few days now...
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Re: Posible pop eye? Red tailed shark.
Eye is still big but fish is happy again. No idea why, the other eye is still good and the affected eye looks no different. Good to see him eating and pooping again though.