I have a pair of GSP.
Water Parameters are Am = 0 Nitrite = 0 Nitrate = 5~10
Sg = 1.023
Recent changes = added a protien skimmer
Also added an anemone (long tent) which recently managed to get caught in the filter intake.
Also seen a cyano bloom recently. been using a baster to suck it off the rocks.
One of the two GSP looks just fine, the other one has a bright white belly, but his sides are all bleached out. spots are getting light grey and sides are very dull green.
Thanks for the help!
Happy, but bleached out
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
I would get that anemone out ASAP!!! Puffers and anemones do not mix. whether they kill the anemone, or visa veras, or both!
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
agreed. Anemones and puffers do not mix. Your nitrates are too high for an anemone. It's all going to end up a disaster. If the nem dies it can wipe out your tank with the resulting ammonia spike.
Please take it back.
Your puff could have already been stung by it, causing the stress and lack of colour...
Please take it back.
Your puff could have already been stung by it, causing the stress and lack of colour...
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
If the anemone got caught in the filter and managed to be torn up and distributed throughout the tank it will sting the mess out of anything it gets into contact with.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
kk.
Also, the bleached one appears to have an enlarged anus.
Also, the bleached one appears to have an enlarged anus.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
kk... means? .. OK? as in you'll take it back? I hope so. 
Have you seen the puffer poo lately? It may be constipated.. Try live dapnia to loosen it up, or any greens... something like nori, see if you can get them to eat that.
My GSP and Ceylon now eat nori, but only because they saw the others eating it and got jealous. I never got them to eat it when they were in brackish on their own... but worth a go anyway.
Have you seen the puffer poo lately? It may be constipated.. Try live dapnia to loosen it up, or any greens... something like nori, see if you can get them to eat that.
My GSP and Ceylon now eat nori, but only because they saw the others eating it and got jealous. I never got them to eat it when they were in brackish on their own... but worth a go anyway.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
Yes it means ok, I hit the wrong key.
Also, as to the poo, I have a small cleaning crew in my tank, which removes a majority of the poo... added epsom salt, appears to have better coloration.
Could the addition of the skimmer (additional noise) have been a factor in its stress, the color is coming back (about 90% of where it was) Also, the anem is moved, and is recuperating well.
Also, as to the poo, I have a small cleaning crew in my tank, which removes a majority of the poo... added epsom salt, appears to have better coloration.
Could the addition of the skimmer (additional noise) have been a factor in its stress, the color is coming back (about 90% of where it was) Also, the anem is moved, and is recuperating well.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
I suspect there was brushing against or taste testing the anemone.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
Yea, i am assuming that was the case as well.
I am betting that when I fed it, the nem took a piece of the food, and he didn't think that the new guy should eat his food.
All is well now. Nem is no longer in with him.
I am betting that when I fed it, the nem took a piece of the food, and he didn't think that the new guy should eat his food.
All is well now. Nem is no longer in with him.
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Re: Happy, but bleached out
good news all round then.
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