Simple Figure 8 puffer(Tetraodon biocellatus) info

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Simple Figure 8 puffer(Tetraodon biocellatus) info

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I wanted to do a figure 8 set up about 36 gallon to hold 3 of them but it was a some what hard it setup, me and my dad are better off with doing fresh and saltwater tanks.

Figure 8 pufferfish

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Actinopterygii
Order: Tetraodontiformes
Family: Tetraodontidae
Genus: Tetraodon
Species: biocellatus
Binomial name
Tetraodon biocellatus
Tirant, 1885

Scientific Name: Tetraodon biocellatus
Family: Tetraodotidae
Origin: Freshwaters of Southeast Asia
Adult Size: up to 2.5 inches (6 cm)
Social: Best kept alone
Lifespan: 5 years
Tank Level: Mid, bottom dweller
Minimum Tank Size: 10 gallon
Diet: Live foods, prefers snails and shellfish
Breeding: Egglayer
Care: Intermediate
pH: 7.0 - 7.5
Hardness: 5 - 12 dGH
Temperature: 72 - 79 F (22-26 C)

Description: Very few people can resist a puffer fish once they've seen them( that would be me Sponge bob). Their expressive faces, and propeller like fins make them an interesting addition to a freshwater aquarium. Puffer fish derive their name from their ability to inflate themselves with water or air when startled (a defensive mechanism - it's harder to swallow a large fish than a small one).
Even when not startled, they have a rolly polly appearance. You can easily spot a well fed puffer by it's rounded belly. Puffers have two pairs of teeth, each of which are fused together giving it a beak-like appearance. This unusual arrangement of teeth gives it the ability to crush hard materials such as the shells of crustaceans.

Habitat/Care: Controversy exists over whether or not any puffers are actually true freshwater fish. I believe the figure eight to be one of the few that falls in that category. They originate in the freshwaters of the Southeast Asia region, and although they tolerate brackish or even full saltwater, mine have always done best in freshwater. They prefer a neutral pH and soft to moderately hard water. They require ample open space to swim, but also need places to hide.
Generally puffers are not well suited to a community tank because they tend to be aggressive. Even puffers who have previously been docile can become aggressive as they age, or if they are not well fed. I've had puffers who got along very well for long periods of time and then suddenly turned on their tankmates and chewed them to pieces. On the other hand, most owners have found figure eights more peaceful than any other puffers and some have successfully kept them in a community tank.
I currently have a figure eight puffer in a 55 gallon community tank with a wide variety of other fish. She has not bothered any of them during the past several years. In fact, she is so tame that she can be hand fed with the other fish, as you can see from the photo linked above under Related Resources. While I cannot recommend the figure eight or any puffer for a community tank because of the potential for trouble, they are a comical and interesting fish that are worth owing.
Diet: Their dietary needs are perhaps one of the more demanding aspects of keeping this fish. They will not eat flake or dried foods. Instead they must be fed live or frozen foods such as snails, shrimp, worms, daphnia, clams, and oysters. Some owners, myself included, have had success training their figure eight puffer to eat frozen foods.
Breeding: Little is known about how to breed Figure Eight puffers. If you have successfully spawned them, please write to me and share your experience.

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Tetraondon biocellatus being fed Krill

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Tetraondon biocellatus with over grown teeth
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I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
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Ehh....Ik The F8's are brackish but some puffers eat the coral...Its ethier a hit or miss and you can try it out with some cheap coral frags on thatfishplace.com just look under coral..and if you ask one of the pro's. the will know
fishboytk wrote:I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
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Sponge bob wrote:Ehh....Ik The F8's are brackish but some puffers eat the coral...Its ethier a hit or miss and you can try it out with some cheap coral frags on thatfishplace.com just look under coral..and if you ask one of the pro's. the will know
fishboytk wrote:I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
Thanks!
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fishboytk wrote:
Sponge bob wrote:Ehh....Ik The F8's are brackish but some puffers eat the coral...Its ethier a hit or miss and you can try it out with some cheap coral frags on thatfishplace.com just look under coral..and if you ask one of the pro's. the will know
fishboytk wrote:I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
Thanks!
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I found some more Helpfull hints

Whats the salt level for them?
1.005-1.008
The best thing to do would be to get your tank water to be the same salinity as that of the pet store's water. Then you can slowly (like 0.001 per week) raise the salinity up to the required amount.

What's their main food?
Shelled food like any puffer and crustaceans etc. I found a good list here:
* Mussel
* Cockle
* Krill
* Prawn
* King Prawn
* Crabs and crabs’ legs
* Bloodworm
* Blackworm
* Silverside

Whats some good tank mates?
Well i'm not entirely sure but obviously they need to be brackish as well and I have heard mollies and gobies are good choices but not big ones as they might bully it.

heater or no heater?
YES! Definitely needs a heater. A good temp would be around 26C (78F)

What type of plants do best in brackish?
Again not certain but the obvious ones would be java fern and java moss.

Don't believe everything I just said as I don't own these fish, just going from what I have heard so just do loads of research and hopefully someone else will reply and confirm what I just said.

Good luck

The rule for F8's is 15 gallons for the first puffer, and 10 for each additional puffer, so in the 20 you could have one, 29 2, and 37 3.
I'd go for either the 20 or 29, it can be quite annoying cleaning a 37, and you need stronger lights for the plants
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fishboytk wrote:I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
Corals won't live in BW...
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crazedpuffer wrote:
fishboytk wrote:I'm setting up a 55g tank for 4 F8's and am wondering if I can put corrals in the tank which is BW.

Thanks! :)
Corals won't live in BW...
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Do not add corals to BW, they will die. The fact that whomever wrote the article above states that their F8 only lived 5 years concerns me, as they should live into their late teens. Please read the F8 article in our Library for best into.
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am looking into figure of 8's myself so have not long read the article, if you search the site you'll find it easily :)
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