One of the two gsps I have in my 55 gallon marine tank has a cloudy, apparently swollen eye.
does not show other signs of stress, but the eye worries me. Just recently added a soft coral to my tank. (a small kenya tree)
I will search for what this is a sign of online but i figured that this site tends to give more direct answers.
Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
It is common for GSPs to get cloudy eyes but you should answer the Qs above in red, just to be sure it isn't a water quality issue. A large water change followed by teatment with Melafix, should clear that right up.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
did a 25% change yesterday, after reading nitrite levels between .25 and zero.
nitrate levels were in the 0-20 range , which is consistant with tap unfortunately.
55 gal w/ 2 gsp, a bunch of live rock, a coral banded, a hermit, and some small blue legged hermits and nars snails.
and a goby (diamond goby)
also, new to the tank I added a couple bits of kenya tree, and a small green polyp coral.
feed once a day a cube of bloodworms or mysis shrimp or marine cuisine. skipping one day every 5th day. occational baby dried shrimp. water change 25% on fridays.
products - prime, instant ocean salt, and added epsom salt per the other one being constipated (turns out he ate one of the little blue legged)
changes were adding the corals on sunday night, and putting some additional cheato in their tank (cheato contained little pods that they like to attack.) Goby was added about a week ago after being separated and observed.
tank has been up a little while, but the tank I seeded it from was running for several months.
ALSO; eye is cloudy still with a couple of little white lines on it now. I cant tell if the lens has been torn by say a bite, or if these are some kind of parasite hanging on it. Whatever it is it is one the outside of the eye while cloudiness is on the inside.
nitrate levels were in the 0-20 range , which is consistant with tap unfortunately.
55 gal w/ 2 gsp, a bunch of live rock, a coral banded, a hermit, and some small blue legged hermits and nars snails.
and a goby (diamond goby)
also, new to the tank I added a couple bits of kenya tree, and a small green polyp coral.
feed once a day a cube of bloodworms or mysis shrimp or marine cuisine. skipping one day every 5th day. occational baby dried shrimp. water change 25% on fridays.
products - prime, instant ocean salt, and added epsom salt per the other one being constipated (turns out he ate one of the little blue legged)
changes were adding the corals on sunday night, and putting some additional cheato in their tank (cheato contained little pods that they like to attack.) Goby was added about a week ago after being separated and observed.
tank has been up a little while, but the tank I seeded it from was running for several months.
ALSO; eye is cloudy still with a couple of little white lines on it now. I cant tell if the lens has been torn by say a bite, or if these are some kind of parasite hanging on it. Whatever it is it is one the outside of the eye while cloudiness is on the inside.
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
One other thing, on noticing the eye problem, I attempted to get him into a container to move him to a separate tank for observation away from other tankmates, and he managed to jump out of the tank top, inflate, and then land back in the water looking dazed or dead, I did manage to "burp" him and he seems generally happy, belly pretty much white, but when I put him in the other tank he freaks out. SO I have left him in the main tank to keep him from getting too stressed.
I was curious if it was possible that the crab or the other puffer lanced his eye, but would it still maintain a round appearance, or would it.. deflate..?
I was curious if it was possible that the crab or the other puffer lanced his eye, but would it still maintain a round appearance, or would it.. deflate..?
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
Whew, that was a lucky jump! It is very possible the puffer went after the crab & the crab defended itself (can't blame the lil fella).
With corals, I'm assuming the tank is SW. Do you have live rock & a protein skimmer for that tank? What's the SG? You can tstill reat with Melafix but turn off the skimmer, if you have one.
With corals, I'm assuming the tank is SW. Do you have live rock & a protein skimmer for that tank? What's the SG? You can tstill reat with Melafix but turn off the skimmer, if you have one.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
Treat with Melafix as PufferPunk said. When you have one cloudy, swollen eye 97% of the time it is due to an injury and not infection. If both eyes were cloudy then you would have more to worry about. Puffers are clumsy sometimes and will get lacerations from decor or being too curious with other tank mates.
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
Ok, definitely going to have to get the melafix
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
Melafix is great stuff - my GSP got a cloudy eye and a white patch on her dorsal fin once, and while it took a while for the spot to disappear (about a week and a half), it cleared up her eye in maybe two days.
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
as with any medication, do I need to remove carbon filtration?
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Re: Help! Cloudy Eye on one of two puffers.
Yup
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"