help, mbu not looking good
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Ok guys he got better and has been fine but yesterday and today he's been sitting on the bottom of the tank and every now and then he will open his mouth wide and partially inflate for about 5 seconds. I'm treating for ip's but i dont think this has anything to do with it he aslo hasn't eaten for 2 days.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Check parameters again.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Parameters are fine, nitrate was 20 which i thought was a little on the high side so i did a water change but 3 hours later he still doesnt look to good, also it looks as if he is breathing heavily
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
You added an airstone?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
This morning he wqas just lying on his side looks really bad. I've got a 1200lph air pump with 3 outlets in the tank so oxygen should be no problem. It looks as if some of the mucus coming of his back and his anus is now enlarged
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Awww... sounds really bad. Possibly some sort if internal bacterial infection. Look here: http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/diseases.html
You can contact them too.
You can contact them too.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I'm going to put him down, he looks so stressed and its not right to continue living like this. It will crush me as i only ever lose fish to old age but it's the most humanething to do.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I'm so sorry to hear this. I have heard of fish miraculously turning around though. Puffer Queen always says: Where there is life, there is still hope. If you do decide to euthanize, use an overdose of clove oil & then feeeze the fish. I would suggest trying an autopsy in a day or so, if you can.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
He has died now anyway when i came down this morning, i feel bad for not having ended it sooner
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Sorry for your loss...
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Sorry for your loss
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I feel awful, he was such an awsome fish with such a great personality even when i have my 800 built i wil never get another mbu i could never replace this guy
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edmlfc1
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Sorry for your loss. I know how hard it is to loose a puffer. 
You can get attached to these guys so quick. Just give yourself some time, you may decided you want another one later. I almost gave up on fish when my tank broke. After crying for almost a week I decided I can't have a home without puffers. I ended up selling all my cichlids that were in the broken tank, bought a replacement tank (will be delivered on Thursday), and ordered a Fahaka puffer. I will take one puffer over 100 fish of any kind. 
It's going on 7 weeks that my tank broke and I'm starting to feel like a kid in a candy store again. It just takes time.
You can get attached to these guys so quick. Just give yourself some time, you may decided you want another one later. I almost gave up on fish when my tank broke. After crying for almost a week I decided I can't have a home without puffers. I ended up selling all my cichlids that were in the broken tank, bought a replacement tank (will be delivered on Thursday), and ordered a Fahaka puffer. I will take one puffer over 100 fish of any kind. It's going on 7 weeks that my tank broke and I'm starting to feel like a kid in a candy store again. It just takes time.Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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Pufferpunk
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I agree. As a dog groomer, I meet a lot of folks that say they will never get a dog again after loosing their beloved pooch. I can't tell you how many call me in 6-8 weeks to groom their new pup. No, you can't replace your puffer but you can certainly learn to love another one again.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
and if you do build that 800G tank, then there are many, many mbu's that need rescuing from terriblr, cramped conditions...
so maybe eventually you'll be able to help one of those...
I am sorry for your loss, although i don't think it is anything you did, or could have fixed.
so maybe eventually you'll be able to help one of those...
I am sorry for your loss, although i don't think it is anything you did, or could have fixed.
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