help, mbu not looking good
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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synodontisjack
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help, mbu not looking good
it's sitting on the floor with pectoral fins clasped to it's side and looking pretty pale. This has only happened recently as i got home, he was swimming round and feeding well this morning. Tank is 180g, temp is 26 celcius, ph7, nitrite 0, ammonia 0, nitrate 5ppm.
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I tried to post pics up but i can't ill put a link on.
Re: help, mbu not looking good
Whoah how big is he? That tank is not big enough for a full grown mbu.
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synodontisjack
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I'm aware it s not big enough for an adult it is only about 5" and will be going into a 800g in 15 months
Re: help, mbu not looking good
OK glad to hear it, just had to check there. 
EDIT: Although I'm not sure how quick they grow.
EDIT: Although I'm not sure how quick they grow.
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
He's swimming round now but only about half an inch from the bottom and it looks like its taking alot of effort to do so.
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
could there be in toxins in the water from the air? have you sprayed anything around there since you got home?
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
No, I'm wondering if it could be food poisoning they food looked and smelt fine but im not sure also the few polypterus also in the tank ate the food and they are fine.
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
what did you feed? could he have ingested something else as well?
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edmlfc1 wrote:A house without a puffer is not a home.
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Prawn, squid, muscle
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
Although the parameters look good, whenever your fish look "off", do a WC.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: help, mbu not looking good
maybe it was the food
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
I agree. Do a good water change and see if he perks up a little.Pufferpunk wrote:Although the parameters look good, whenever your fish look "off", do a WC.
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edmlfc1 wrote:A house without a puffer is not a home.
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synodontisjack
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Re: help, mbu not looking good
i did a big water change, he's perked up a little i'll see how he goes
thanks guys
thanks guys