So my other GSP just suddenly got sick, he is currently in a 90 gallon
1 1.50 inch gsp
2 .5 inch bumblee gobbies
salnity 1.009
0 amonia
10 nitrates
0 nitrites about
no changes in the last week except for adding 2 bumblee gobbies and some ghost shrimp
puffer is floating around and crashing into things besides that he is sitting in the bottom and doing nothing
he was perfectly healthy yesterday so i have no idea what happen
GSP Sick
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: GSP Sick
he sits at the bottom of the tank with his head down and his tail up.
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Troender
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Re: GSP Sick
Have you added any medication or any other stuff to the water? When did you do your last water change, and what did you add to the water then?
Inger Anne
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Troender
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 1843
- Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:04 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: 1x GSP (Bolla), 1x m. something. Bought as a leiurus, maybe a turgidus (Tiger), 1x c. irrubesco (Tott(a) aka Houdini) 1x c. salivator (Jack the Ripper), 1x m. cochinchinensis (Hufflepuff - R.I.P.), 2x c. lorteti (Tommy and Tigern = Calvin and Hubbes), 1x m. suvatti (Koseklumpen), 1x m. palembangensis (Dragonfly), 2x t. biocellatus (Koken and Fiken).
- Location: Askim, Norway
Re: GSP Sick
Sorry for your loss! 
Inger Anne
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Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! -George Carlin
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Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! -George Carlin
Re: GSP Sick
bad week, that is 2 in a week : [
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StormySkiez
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Re: GSP Sick
Sorry you lost him 
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A few things to possibly help the BBG's and any future fish. Be sure your tank is cycled. Your tanks are fairly new. Make sure no household chemicals are getting into the tank. Hands are free of soap or any residue before inside tank maintenance. QT all new livestock before adding to your main tank. You had stated the gsp's were not healthy looking when you bought them in another post. Buy from another source.
. A few things to possibly help the BBG's and any future fish. Be sure your tank is cycled. Your tanks are fairly new. Make sure no household chemicals are getting into the tank. Hands are free of soap or any residue before inside tank maintenance. QT all new livestock before adding to your main tank. You had stated the gsp's were not healthy looking when you bought them in another post. Buy from another source.
55g-2 green spotted puffers 1 year old Nov 08!
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ACF
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Re: GSP Sick
Ahh I remember you saying in chat that if he did pass you were going to give up on puffs. Don't eh! =) They are hardy lil buggers perhaps try getting them from a different location? Or have you tried that? Sorry about the GSP!! =) Get a Orange Saddle with perhaps another GSP. =)wngt368 wrote:he is dead now....
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marksrush
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Re: GSP Sick
Yeah buddy don't give up on puffers just yet. I've had a similar experience to you and it's not easy to go through, because it doesn't take but a minute to get attached to the little creatures and it really hurts when you lose one. But somewhere out there is a puffer who needs you, so try not to be too discouraged.
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Re: GSP Sick
Orange saddle puffer is difficult for even expert puffer keepers to keep alive. They require cooler temps = chiller. They will also kill a GSP.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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ACF
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Re: GSP Sick
Really? I didn't know. The LFS near me has one. They've had him since I first visited .. 2 months ago and he isn't kept anywhere special I must say! Very neat lil bugger. Shy as all hell eh! This ones very timid I find but then again we don't know what goes on @ night.Pufferpunk wrote:Orange saddle puffer is difficult for even expert puffer keepers to keep alive. They require cooler temps = chiller. They will also kill a GSP.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: GSP Sick
2 months is a drop in the bucket for a puffer's longevity into their teens. Most don't make it past 4 months, in the incorrect conditions.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"