Hello,
I have one Green Spotted Puffer fish in a 15gal tank. Yesterday I have been noticing changes in his color, in which I knew was normal. His belly is still white but hes still not as bright as he usually is later in the day. I know that I have enough marine salt in the tank because his belly hasen't changed. He has ate some too, but not as much as usual. The problem is that hes kinda just loaping around, not really moving much, singing to the bottom, swimming on the top alot. Hes still swimming around a little bit, but I am worried that something is really wrong with him. Does anyone have an idea on what might be wrong with him?
I just finished the water change on the fish tank. So I guess the only thing, I can do is wait and hope that he gets better.
I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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cori
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I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
How much salt is in there? Do you have any way to measue it? Do a 50% water change now & please answer all the Qs above in red. If you have any test kits, test the water before you change it. If you don't, take some water out into a clean container (no soap), do the WC & bring the water to your LFS to be tested asap.
Reoort back here with the exact readings you get for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH & specific gravity. While you're there, buy a hydrometer that starts at 1.000 & test kits for the above parameters.
Reoort back here with the exact readings you get for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH & specific gravity. While you're there, buy a hydrometer that starts at 1.000 & test kits for the above parameters.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
It was too late......he just died. I have no idea what was wrong, I know all the readings were correct. Anywaz, thanks everyone for being consered.
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Cori -
Sorry that your GSP died - it is not easy, one of mine passed last week.
Sorry that your GSP died - it is not easy, one of mine passed last week.
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Thank you for your support.
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Was the tank even cycled? How long has it been set up for?
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
I let the water cycle about 10 days before I put my puffers in the tank. So I know that it wasen't it.
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CtHM
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
But HOW did you cycle it? Just letting the water sit there for 10 days won't do it, it needs to have a bacteria source in order to cycle (such as used filter media, substrate, plants, etc).
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Letting the filter and heater do their thing on an empty tank is "running" the tank, not cycling it. It's a good idea if you're unsure of any of the equipment, but testing the filter and heater is pretty much all it accomplishes.
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Oh no, thats not what I ment. I know that it won't cycle if you let it just set. You have to have the whole tank set up.
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
The thing is...to fully cycle a tank without adding some type of material, ie: Bio Spira, old filter media, fish flake, something to kick start, it will not cycle. Also when adding something that isn't "quick cycling" it can take a tank almost 4 weeks to mature, not 10 days.
Did you check nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, Ph, and salinity using test strips or a hydrometer?
Did you check nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, Ph, and salinity using test strips or a hydrometer?
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
No, I don't have the right equipment for testing. Because the person I got them from told me that they are pretty easy to take care of, and explained to me what I need to know. I kinda trusted him since he has taking care of them for years. But as for putting something in the water other than the heater and the filter, I have never heard of that. Putting flakes or something in the water as it goes through the cycle process. I have never heard of such a thing.
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
Did he give you the tank & filtration he had been keeping them in? What size?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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cori
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
I had to buy everything myself. My tank is 15g but as for his I don't know.
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Re: I think my Puffers gona die!! PLZ Help!!
So how long did the GSP last in an uncycled 15g tank? Did you have more than 1?
It would really help to know the salinity of your water. You might have added too much salt at once. How mcuh did you add?
It would really help to know the salinity of your water. You might have added too much salt at once. How mcuh did you add?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"