should I worry
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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little_angel81881
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should I worry
ok I dont have exact #s I have the test strips sorry I will be buying a better test kit
PH 7.2-7.8
Ammonia .25 -.5
Nitrite .5-1.0
Nitrates80
What that poo I just did a water change 20% and it got worse I used Tetra water conditioner and Tetra easy balance and it went up - He isnt actin normal - this morning he was fine and eating and the levels where not that high so I did a water change and now its that and he doesnt really want to eat but all he does is swim back and forth and up and down and I just put in some java fern on saturday and I sware he is darker - I'll get a pic - oh and he is in fw still in 10 gal still waiting on 30 gal to set up but he is not even a inch
PH 7.2-7.8
Ammonia .25 -.5
Nitrite .5-1.0
Nitrates80
What that poo I just did a water change 20% and it got worse I used Tetra water conditioner and Tetra easy balance and it went up - He isnt actin normal - this morning he was fine and eating and the levels where not that high so I did a water change and now its that and he doesnt really want to eat but all he does is swim back and forth and up and down and I just put in some java fern on saturday and I sware he is darker - I'll get a pic - oh and he is in fw still in 10 gal still waiting on 30 gal to set up but he is not even a inch

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Re: should I worry
You're not doing large enough WC but hard to tell w/o proper test kits. Ammonia & nitrite must remain 0 at all times. Any amount of either is very toxic.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: should I worry
and what would make it go up when i did do the wc shouldnt have went down at least some not up

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Re: should I worry
I'm not sure you should be using easybalance. It's a water change substitute additive, and I don't know what effects it might have other than neutralizing nitrates. Try doing a 50% or so water change, vacuuming the substrate very well.
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Re: should I worry
I wouldn't trust those test strips much. Did you test right be fore the WC & right after? Unless your tap water contains ammonie & nitrite, WC can do nothing but good for you puffer. As much as 80% 2x/day or whatever necessary to keep those toxic levels down.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: should I worry
I dont trust the strips - I will be getting a test kit soon if I didnt live an hour away from the closes store with them I would get them tonight but I did test my tap water after I put water conditioner in it and it shows a low amount of nitrates so whats up with that - but i think he was constipated b/c now he is pottying and it is like a knot and then a string and then a knot and he seems to be acting better but I am going to do another wc just to make sure - thanks for all the help I just hope he will be ok - he looks fine other than being a lil darker

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Re: should I worry
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You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: should I worry
Ok so I am going to order that now anything else u suggest I get for puffer carePufferpunk wrote:http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... catid=4454
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Re: should I worry
You can get buckets of salt for cheap & no extra charge for weight. Do you have a good hydrometer/refractometer? How about decor?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: should I worry
I would test the tap water. I know my tap water ammonia is always .50-1.0. I know that sounds bad but it has always been that way. Usually after about 12-24 hours the amm. in my tank goes back to 0. If I test my water right after a water change it always shows amm. readings because of my tap.
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Re: should I worry
I checked the tap last night and it does have a lil nitrate and ammonia but very lil - i did a wc and he still is acting wierd - he wont eat but he is not skinny he looks healthy other than not paying me any attention and not interested in the food

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Check the feeding articles in our Library.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: should I worry
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"