Hi i have a dog face who puffed when it was caught at the lfs, it now has a huge lump by its back looks like it hasn't deflated properly and is making it flaot at the top. how can i help it, will tipping it up let the air or water that is stuck out????
I dont know what to do, any advice would be really great.
Thanks
Dog Face With huge lump / Air pocket
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
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4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Dog Face With huge lump / Air pocket
heres a quote from pufferpunk from aquaricentral
"Try hanging it vertically, head up, tail down, under water & shake. I did that to mine after it puffed w/air. Mine burped & swam away. You can also try pressing on the chest to "burp" the fish."
it would be my guess, kinda traumatic to have to do that but you need to try and get the air out of the puffer so i would try it.
"Try hanging it vertically, head up, tail down, under water & shake. I did that to mine after it puffed w/air. Mine burped & swam away. You can also try pressing on the chest to "burp" the fish."
it would be my guess, kinda traumatic to have to do that but you need to try and get the air out of the puffer so i would try it.
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Re: Dog Face With huge lump / Air pocket
Thank you,
And thanks Pufferpunk, I have just got my husband to tip it up to get the air out, it started to puff and he lost his grip but as it deflated i burped all its air out.
But boy isn't this puffer having a bad day,just come down from upstairs to hear the pump going mad and the dogface was stuck on the sump intake which had started syphoning, i got my finger between the pipe and puffer and it now seems ok. if not a little sulky. Is this a comomn problem with puffers and if so how can you stop it happening without putting a cage round the pipes????
Cheers
Lisa
And thanks Pufferpunk, I have just got my husband to tip it up to get the air out, it started to puff and he lost his grip but as it deflated i burped all its air out.
But boy isn't this puffer having a bad day,just come down from upstairs to hear the pump going mad and the dogface was stuck on the sump intake which had started syphoning, i got my finger between the pipe and puffer and it now seems ok. if not a little sulky. Is this a comomn problem with puffers and if so how can you stop it happening without putting a cage round the pipes????
Cheers
Lisa
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Re: Dog Face With huge lump / Air pocket
Do you have any kind of screen across the intake?
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Re: Dog Face With huge lump / Air pocket
Hi Pufferpunk no i dont (well i have some netting over the pipes but apparently that didn't help), what would you suggest as a screen. when it was my tropical tank i had a cage round it but that really affected my flow rate, the intakes are gravity fed so no suction as such , i guess the puffer got too close then puffed and got stuck. as i said it is having a bad day.
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