Poisoned Puffer?
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Poisoned Puffer?
I recently introduced living rock into my aquarium which housed my 2 GPS, which were thriving and happy, all the way up till I introduced the rocks a few hours a go. At first they were fine and ignoring the rocks, which are premium living rock and had a couple of "living creatures" on them, one of them being some kind of odd snail along with various algea and some "starfish" looking things and something bright orange. The puffers began to check the rocks out and that led to pecking at the things on the rocks and they killed the snail. Anyway, one of them started acting really sick after an hour of pecking and now his underbelly is dark green and his tail is wrapped around his body and he's "sitting" on the UG filter and one of his eyes is "swollen" and kinda "cloudy" and the other one is normal. The other puffer in the tank however is just as healthy as ever and is about his usual business. I'm pretty sure the sick one will be dead soon.....was he poisoned? I'm not exactly sure how he went downhill in a matter of hours so quickly. I'm thinking maybe he ate something on the rocks that was poisonous? Any idea?
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
What SG are they at?
Where did you get the rock from?
How many pounds?
Did you cure it 1st?
Check your parameters.
Where did you get the rock from?
How many pounds?
Did you cure it 1st?
Check your parameters.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Poisoned Puffer?
It's ok, he recovered an hour later. He's eating and swimming normally now and he's back to his regular color. It only lasted for about 1 1/2 hours, then he recovered. I've got my 2 puffers in a 55 gallon salt aquarium, I only bought 2 1/4 lbs of live rock...at 13 dollars a pound, it's all I can afford at a time ::sigh:: and it was cured when i got it. The salinity is around 1.024, they're adult puffers. I think the odd snail in the tank that came on the rocks might of stung him before they killed it and it made him sick. Though the other one was pecking to and he was fine. Anyway the puffer is fine, he ate a full breakfast of krill this morning and is swimming and playing in the bubbles. 
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
maybe he was just full after a big meal...
mine sometimes go for an 'after dinner snooze' where they will go find somewhere snug and curl up for a couple of hours..
you still want to watch your parameters incase there is any die off from the rock from being out of water during transit, or from entering new water, if the SG was different from the shop it could shock the rock and spike your ammonia...
mine sometimes go for an 'after dinner snooze' where they will go find somewhere snug and curl up for a couple of hours..
you still want to watch your parameters incase there is any die off from the rock from being out of water during transit, or from entering new water, if the SG was different from the shop it could shock the rock and spike your ammonia...
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
$13/lb?? I've never paid anything over $4. Go to http://www.reefcentral.com & look into a local reef club near you for lots of cheap stuff locally. Also try http://www.craigslist.com to see if anyone nearby is selling off rock from their tanks.
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
My store is one of the only ones out this way that has live rock, we sell partially cured/cured with no growth for 10$ a pound and fully cured with pods, coraline, and macroalgae for 16$ a pound.
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
i dont feel so bad about my 7/ pound for really nice tonga branch any more, they have ruble for 3 and fiji for 5. but i still buy through local ppl cus you can usually find it from people who will give killer deals around 2-3 dollar range and its usually way better rock, at least in my experience.
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Re: Poisoned Puffer?
Not only that but if it's from a local reefer's tank, it's totally cured!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"