Clove oil
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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bazil323
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Clove oil
How much is clove oil and where do you get it? I'd like to have some on hand just in case. I recently had a puffer die, and I knew that there was no hope and he was suffering, but I didn't have a way to painlessly euthanize him. Plus, I want some just in case I need to do a trim on the remaining puffer's teeth. Thanks!
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Re: Clove oil
I did a search online for clove oil: http://www.gnc.com/sm-now-clove-oil--pi-2274024.html
Although I would not use it to end a fish's suffering as I believe in letting nature running it's course but I know what you mean. I don't know what is harder...to watch a fish suffer or to put one to sleep. If you do a search online you may find a better price. I believe I read here that finquel is better and can be used for both treatments: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... 1774969521
Finquel is expensive but probably safer to use.
Although I would not use it to end a fish's suffering as I believe in letting nature running it's course but I know what you mean. I don't know what is harder...to watch a fish suffer or to put one to sleep. If you do a search online you may find a better price. I believe I read here that finquel is better and can be used for both treatments: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... 1774969521
Finquel is expensive but probably safer to use.
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Re: Clove oil
I think clove oil is "safe" enough to euthanize a puffer. Just squirt a dropperfull ihnto a container with tank water, wait about 15 minutes & then freeze.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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StormySkiez
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Re: Clove oil
What I meant by safe was in reference to tranquilizing a puffer for teeth trimming.
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Re: Clove oil
I thought they were just asking about euthanizing.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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bazil323
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Re: Clove oil
Yes, I do mainly want it if I need to euthanize. I'd rather end a suffering life than watch it slowly die knowing that nothing will help. If there is a chance that it will survive, then I will continue treatment (if there is one) and/or monitor it's health. But if I know there is no hope and it is suffering, I can't just stand by and do nothing... 
Thanks for the option of finquel for teeth trimming though. My puffer seems to do fine just by feeding hard, meaty, crunchy foods, but it's nice to have a safe option for trimming, just in case.
Thanks for the option of finquel for teeth trimming though. My puffer seems to do fine just by feeding hard, meaty, crunchy foods, but it's nice to have a safe option for trimming, just in case.