GSP died...
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Fernzero
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GSP died...
Sadly, our GSP has passed... I tried everything as far as advice went. I want another GSP but will not purchase another till my tank is at PERFECT parameters. What really kills me is he/she seemed so alive and happy, then (poof) dead.. I do not know what went wrong, I took PP's advice and did water changes daily, constantly checking ammonia, nitrites, etc... I am just going to give up for now, start a "fishless cycle" after I move, and hopefully can raise a baby GSP to full marine with better success. I've seen some amazing Saltwater tanks online, are GSPs good with coral/anemones as adult puffers?
Fern.
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groovitudedude
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Re: GSP died...
Sorry to hear that. Don't let the death of a fish make you lose hope in the hobby.
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Nick
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Re: GSP died...
Depends on the GSP. Most will limit your selection of corals.
No matter how magnificent your successes or devastating your failures, the worlds' approximately 5 billion impoverished people could not possibly care less.
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yunachin
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Re: GSP died...
I am sorry for your loss. IMO I would not put a puffer and an anemone together as puffers dim-witted curiosity can cause them to get seriously injured or worse. IME, All of the GSP's I have owned have never ate a single coral but.....that doesn't mean that one you get doesn't have a taste for some. It just depends on the puffer.
E.Ridgeway
Re: GSP died...
You know that's a good question, I have 2 adult GSP in a 55 gallon SW aquarium and I recently added 2 1/4 lbs of premium cured live rock and pretty much, as soon as I added it *one of them bit me as I was placing it in the water* they began noseing around and under it and looking very carefully at anything and everything on the rocks and then began the pecking. I was wondering myself if I should remove them when I start adding anemones and coral? They are pretty destructive and curious and those two together are dangerous 
. I don't want to remove them, they're lovely sweet fish, that even recognize their food bottles....but I want a reef system eventually :*(. However, they have been getting very well along with my other 2 saltwater fish, a domino damsel and a yellow tail damsel. There's been no fighting at all. Anyway should i remove them to another tank or leave them be? they're flourishing int he sw tank.
. I don't want to remove them, they're lovely sweet fish, that even recognize their food bottles....but I want a reef system eventually :*(. However, they have been getting very well along with my other 2 saltwater fish, a domino damsel and a yellow tail damsel. There's been no fighting at all. Anyway should i remove them to another tank or leave them be? they're flourishing int he sw tank.-
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Re: GSP died...
sorry for you loss.
Re-cycle your tank from scratch, taking your time to make sure everything is stable and correct before trying again... being patient is annoying, but get it right and your fish could last 20 years, so a few weeks is neither here nor there...
....then find a reputable fish shop, if you can get a healthy to start with then that may help in the long run...
Katesstar: If you are happy to just keep leathers/mushrooms and hermit crabs then you *should* be ok to keep the GSP in there, (tank size dependent ie 60G minimum)
If you want to try hard corals, or other softies, then each coral you add could end up a VERY expensive meal for your puff friends...
Re-cycle your tank from scratch, taking your time to make sure everything is stable and correct before trying again... being patient is annoying, but get it right and your fish could last 20 years, so a few weeks is neither here nor there...
....then find a reputable fish shop, if you can get a healthy to start with then that may help in the long run...
Katesstar: If you are happy to just keep leathers/mushrooms and hermit crabs then you *should* be ok to keep the GSP in there, (tank size dependent ie 60G minimum)
If you want to try hard corals, or other softies, then each coral you add could end up a VERY expensive meal for your puff friends...
1 x 90G Juv stars and stripes puffer, Ceylon Puffer + GSP + 2 black clowns
1 x 30G LPS Reef
1 x 30G 1 x Blind goldfish
1 x 30G LPS Reef
1 x 30G 1 x Blind goldfish