I'm not sure if this is common with GSP or not, but i'm a little concerned. My fish came form a LFS that is known for not taking care of their fish, they were fairly sick looking when I got them when but have come around quite a bit. Every morning though they have dark bellies and are lying on the bottom of the tank and come around again after the lights have been on for about 5 minutes or so.
They are in a 33g
SG 1.010
ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate under 20ppm
Ph 8-8.5
I know the 33 is a bit small for them, but I will be moving them to a 55g by christmas time. They are juveniles now at about 1.5-2 inches. Other tank inhabitants are 2 balloon mollies and a knight gobythat I didn't even know I still had, I thought he was dead & eaten as I hadn't seen him in a couple months, even during WC and aquascaping.
so am I worrying about nothing? Maybe they're just sleeping?
They also eat very well, I feed twice a day with a varied diet, mussels, raw shrimp, freeze dried bloodworms that I reconstitute in tank water and freeze dried krill with which I do the same. I also give them pond snails, but they won't eat them. They do gnaw on the mussel shells as i open them and drop them into the tank so hopefully this will help keep beaks down. Oh, and one of them (tweedle Dee) seems to want me to put the food directly in his mouth when I hand feed, opens wide and looks at me.
GSP looking sick in the morning
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Jay.B.
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Re: GSP looking sick in the morning
you're worrying about nothing, Bonzo goes all grey on his back and dark around the eyes when he is resting/sleeping, it freaked me out to start with, just keep your water at optimum quality and you shouldn't have any problems
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Re: GSP looking sick in the morning
sleepy gsps often have dark bellies...
as long as when you wake them up they become active and begin swimming, and are feeding well then then i wouldn't worry too much...
welcome to the forum,
as long as when you wake them up they become active and begin swimming, and are feeding well then then i wouldn't worry too much...
welcome to the forum,
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