How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

Post by t1gerbee »

I need a Uk based solution....

any one know?


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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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Do they have praziquantel there?
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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nope... illegal....

boo hiss...
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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I think hilly has something new that he is using. Give him a pm.
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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Wormer Plus from Plymouth Discus is UK based and available under the small animal exception. Should ship fast. Just make sure you turn off your skimmer for 2 days afterwards or it will skim out too fast.
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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been looking at that wormer plus....

is it usable for marines? and more specifically marine puffers? Anyone tried it on anything other than freshwater fish...

Should it make a difference whether its freshwater flukes/workms etc or marine ones, or are they all the same.....
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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Flubenzidole kills most inverts more simple than shrimp, even snails die... it's VERY broad class. I've used it at full marine, you must turn your skimmer off for at least a day or two tho. Make sure you use at least a full dose, I've done double safely, parasites get resistant to the stuff very quickly, so you want to completely overwhelm them.
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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In the US, before praziquantel was available for fish, it was widely used to deworm dogs. Fishkeepers wanting to use praziquantel could obtain it from their vet as tablets for dogs. Fishkeepers would do a 3 hour dip using the dog medication. If praziquantel for dogs is available in the UK, it is likely you could Google to find the dosing and treatment procedure for treating fish with tablets made for dogs.

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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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i orders some of the wormer hilly found... pymouth discus stuff...

now, when i get it... do i just dose the tank (10G quarentine tank..) as it says on the pack?

Or do i soak her food... ? If so, do i make up a solution as if it were dosing the tank, or do i make a stronger mix for soaking the food in?


or both? :-)


Not seen a puff this bad before, eats greedily, and gets a big tummy, but the bulge is right at the back of the underneath of her body and stays she completely concave at the front of her underside...

her eyes look huge she is so gaunt...



i need to stop doing this.. but can't help but try with them... :-)
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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You're supposed to add it to the water, but I'd soak some freeze dried krill or similar in it too for security.
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Re: How to treat a marine puffer for IP's?

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okay dokey...

will give it a go when the i get the meds... fingers crossed!
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