I have two F8's in a 30g with a fluval 404. All readings are good...nitrite,nitrate, amonia everything is good to go. They are eating great, very active. Now one of them is getting a hazy looking eye...whats the deal and how do i deal with it.
thanks in advance
p
F8 hazy eye
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Nick
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Re: F8 hazy eye
Whats your water change schedual like, and are they in FW or brackish water? Opportunistic infection after he bumped into something is most likely, infections of various sorts are one of the things much less likely with F8's in brackish, thats why I ask. I'd add some melafix and wait, if it doens'nt look very badly infected.
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Re: F8 hazy eye
crap my last post didnt go through. so round two.
they are in FW since they came from FW at the lfs. I was planning on making the transition starting next week. Also i was wanting to put a "clean up crew" in there but the dominant one seems to kill anything that attempts to move except the other puffer. I've read mix ideas on how they do with others in the tank. Do you have any suggestions on that situation? Thanks
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they are in FW since they came from FW at the lfs. I was planning on making the transition starting next week. Also i was wanting to put a "clean up crew" in there but the dominant one seems to kill anything that attempts to move except the other puffer. I've read mix ideas on how they do with others in the tank. Do you have any suggestions on that situation? Thanks
P
Re: F8 hazy eye
Oh yeah the water change. I've been cleaning up whats left after feeding at least once a day and adding water as needed but the tank is very clear, stable and the levels are good to go. They have only been in there for a few couple of weeks. I haven't been to concerned about doing the 25% since i'm running such a strong filter and cleaning up behind them consistently. Is that a bad mindset to be in?
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mikeosoft
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Re: F8 hazy eye
No matter what filter you have, you MUST do waterchanges. The filter will assist in carifying the water, as well as converting ammonia to nitrate, but the filter does nothing for removing nitrates. The only effective way to remove nitrates is though water changes (unless you have a heavily planted tank, and even still, you need to do WC's).
When you say "everything is good to go" what do you mean? You should provide the exact readings because "good to go" to you, may mean something completely different to someone else.
I would go do a 50% waterchange and then monitor the fish. If it's only a single eye then its probably just a minor injury. Keep the water clean and watch the eye closely.
I over-filter all my tanks and do at least 50% WC's every week.
When you say "everything is good to go" what do you mean? You should provide the exact readings because "good to go" to you, may mean something completely different to someone else.
I would go do a 50% waterchange and then monitor the fish. If it's only a single eye then its probably just a minor injury. Keep the water clean and watch the eye closely.
I over-filter all my tanks and do at least 50% WC's every week.
Re: F8 hazy eye
as of yesterday:
amonia=0
nitrite=0
nitrate=0
ph=7.5
I'll do a water change after work. should i let it run it's course or medicate him? He's still eating like a beast.
amonia=0
nitrite=0
nitrate=0
ph=7.5
I'll do a water change after work. should i let it run it's course or medicate him? He's still eating like a beast.
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Nick
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F8 - Velvet
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- Location: Middletown, CT
- Contact:
Re: F8 hazy eye
Clean up crew aren't really needed in tanks unless there are areas a dead fish could end up where you can't pick it out, like in reef tanks. Anything that might serve the purpose in brackish(crabs, shrimp) are pufferfood.
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mikeosoft
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Re: F8 hazy eye
How is the fish doing? Is the eye any better yet?