he kinda seems like he's been chemically burrnt
Chompers getting better... but one gill's closed ??
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
i know i regret giving him this stuff big time...
he kinda seems like he's been chemically burrnt
he kinda seems like he's been chemically burrnt
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Pudge
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But still really Cute.
Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Yeah He seems semi blind
He does reaacte to certain things.. He can see somethings maybe colors.. i dont know about detail.. he seems really weak . .. he was swimming around pretty good last night.. more life then we have seen as of latley.
He is less doppy
Still bumping into things
hes more active
hes inst eating
hes still weak
My gf fed him today .. he spit up some and ate some so thats good
Im not to sure what the deal is
I think he is poised a bit and its fading and hes is chemical burnt a bit..
Can u feed a puffer if he has trouble eating ?
He does reaacte to certain things.. He can see somethings maybe colors.. i dont know about detail.. he seems really weak . .. he was swimming around pretty good last night.. more life then we have seen as of latley.
He is less doppy
Still bumping into things
hes more active
hes inst eating
hes still weak
My gf fed him today .. he spit up some and ate some so thats good
Im not to sure what the deal is
I think he is poised a bit and its fading and hes is chemical burnt a bit..
Can u feed a puffer if he has trouble eating ?
If you could define a puffers age buy how they act what age would they be ?
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
This sounds alot like what happened to my little GSP. I thought he had ich and I bought a product called Life Gaurd by and it caused my little GSP (Thats his name, George Saint Pierre) to get even worse. The little guy was very very upset and stressed.
Before the meds he was active and moved around all the time and always came out to greet us (Me, my wife and daughter) but he stopped doing that and just sat in the back of the tank and put his head in the corner. He lost his shine, and he went black on me. He is just recently getting better but he still looks like a starving fish compared to my other little healthy guy, Judo. Judo is fat happy and is a voracious eater (He doesnt eat something he attacks it!) but GSP will nibble a bit an then go off. He only likes FD Krill now, but Im afraid they dont have the fat he needs to get bigger. He wont eat much clam belly, octopus, muscles, crabs bloodworms nothing. He just recently ate a tiny snail, but he used to eat them like they were going out of style!
Ugh, this has been an adventure for sure and I'm getting to my spending limit. I have bought dewormer, pima and melafix, I have bought extrenal parasite meds. The little guys is getting a bit better but I'm gonna be honest he still looks bad.
To top it off, he now has a small bit of what looks like a worm of tiny (cm or so) string attached to his side...
I'm feeling your pain guys, and I wish I could help more.
Before the meds he was active and moved around all the time and always came out to greet us (Me, my wife and daughter) but he stopped doing that and just sat in the back of the tank and put his head in the corner. He lost his shine, and he went black on me. He is just recently getting better but he still looks like a starving fish compared to my other little healthy guy, Judo. Judo is fat happy and is a voracious eater (He doesnt eat something he attacks it!) but GSP will nibble a bit an then go off. He only likes FD Krill now, but Im afraid they dont have the fat he needs to get bigger. He wont eat much clam belly, octopus, muscles, crabs bloodworms nothing. He just recently ate a tiny snail, but he used to eat them like they were going out of style!
Ugh, this has been an adventure for sure and I'm getting to my spending limit. I have bought dewormer, pima and melafix, I have bought extrenal parasite meds. The little guys is getting a bit better but I'm gonna be honest he still looks bad.
To top it off, he now has a small bit of what looks like a worm of tiny (cm or so) string attached to his side...
I'm feeling your pain guys, and I wish I could help more.
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
did GSP act like he was blind?
how long has he been acting like that for?
Okay so i tested Nitrates and they're at 0 so all the parameters are good, except I haven't tested for nitrAtes - still cant find a test kit for that
we got some melafix and gave him 1/2 dose of that.... and now hes swimmin around more
still not responding to food... but he is getting better and better !
how long has he been acting like that for?
Okay so i tested Nitrates and they're at 0 so all the parameters are good, except I haven't tested for nitrAtes - still cant find a test kit for that
we got some melafix and gave him 1/2 dose of that.... and now hes swimmin around more
still not responding to food... but he is getting better and better !
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
No GSP wasnt blind, just went down hill and became very antisocial. I think it stressed him and lowered his immune system to a point where he was susceptible to parasites and fungus.
Hes doing more now, but hes still thinner than Kate Moss on the Adkins diet. Hes all mouth eyes and bones. I don't know how to get him better than continuing the medicine and feeding him, but all he eats is the not so nutritious krill. He wont eat the seafood meledy from my market, even soaked in garlic!
Anyway if I can help I sure will.
Hes doing more now, but hes still thinner than Kate Moss on the Adkins diet. Hes all mouth eyes and bones. I don't know how to get him better than continuing the medicine and feeding him, but all he eats is the not so nutritious krill. He wont eat the seafood meledy from my market, even soaked in garlic!
Anyway if I can help I sure will.
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
I just did somehomework, apparently lifeguard can harm scaleless fish...
No matter how magnificent your successes or devastating your failures, the worlds' approximately 5 billion impoverished people could not possibly care less.
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GSP
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*Biggie Smalls = Walmart must be stopped!
Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Unfotunatly, I found that out the hard way. Im such a fool. Where did you find that at? Is there anything on what it does and how to reverse it?Nick wrote:I just did somehomework, apparently lifeguard can harm scaleless fish...
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
any tips on getting him to eat? - please
eating was never an issue, he was always all over his food before the stupid treatment !
eating was never an issue, he was always all over his food before the stupid treatment !
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Nick
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
It was noted under the advanced info on a web page selling lifeguard...
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GSP
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*Biggie Smalls = Walmart must be stopped!
Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Geuss I should have bought it online instead of at the store, stupid me.Nick wrote:It was noted under the advanced info on a web page selling lifeguard...
Now little GSP is dead, my wife found him this morning stuck inside the filter intake , he was still alive but had his insides comming out so he was agoners.I feel like an idiot, because he was healthy before I stressed him out and allowed the other bad stuff to take over.
I hate that a cute fish had to die for me to learn a lesson, not to mention I had bonded with him...
He was a fighter to the end, he was always trying to hang onto life. I will always remember my little friend.
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Chomps is itching himself now... *sigh* ...
What the heck !? now it looks like he has ich on his fins!!! goodness..... now what !?!?!???
I read the ich articles in the library... but we don't have a quarantine tank... he's our only fish !
*sigh* ...What the heck !? now it looks like he has ich on his fins!!! goodness..... now what !?!?!???
I read the ich articles in the library... but we don't have a quarantine tank... he's our only fish !
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
A species tank is a quarantine tank, for all intents and purposes.
No matter how magnificent your successes or devastating your failures, the worlds' approximately 5 billion impoverished people could not possibly care less.
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Life Guard that GSP used, and Parasite Guard that I used are both made by Jungle...
is it possible we shouldn't be using jungle products ?
Chomps ate a snail this mornin ! I'm so happy !
is it possible we shouldn't be using jungle products ?
Chomps ate a snail this mornin ! I'm so happy !
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
Happy to hear thatsparks42 wrote: Chomps ate a snail this mornin ! I'm so happy !
So he is getting better?Inger Anne
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sparks42
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Re: Chompers not doin so well after fluke treatment...
yes, he is acting much better today.
he also ate some bloodworms
he also ate some bloodworms