I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby)
I've been trying to catch him. I made a trap (out of a soda bottle), he *will* be removed from the tank tomorrow. Hopefully, the trap will work. Last time I tried it didn't work as I planned. Its very hard to catch a stinking damsel.
Last edited by SpockthePuffer on Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:09 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby)
I don't believe moving him is the answer--just stress him more.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby)
Okay, so is he probably just stressing from the damsel? I haven't really seen the damsel ever bother him other than this time but he could be doing it when I'm not around. The coral beauty always swims by Filbert too, swims closely, like she knows she is going into "his personal space" He does have places to hide for the most part though. When he started this stress behavior he was under a rock where the other fish wouldn't really get to him.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby)
He is still breathing like crazy. I turned off the lights for the night so hopefully that will calm him down. We will see how he is in the morning
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby)
I hope he's just moody like PP said, and not dying. 
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
Me too. He is my little sweetiepie....
Well after writing that sentence... I decided to go check on him...
He is dead. At least, he isn't moving and I poked him with the end of a net and he didn't move or wake up... So unless he is very good at playing opossum, he is dead :'(
Well after writing that sentence... I decided to go check on him...
He is dead. At least, he isn't moving and I poked him with the end of a net and he didn't move or wake up... So unless he is very good at playing opossum, he is dead :'(
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
He was so cute.

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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
Oh wow, so sorry for your loss...
There are some things they just die from where we (at least I) have no explaination for. Maybe Puffer Queen has an idea (I'm sure she does...). You need to PM her though.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
I think I will pm her. I tried to do everything I could do for him, but I guess it wasn't enough.
I find it weird that he didn't really eat but always had a somewhat rounded belly. When I found him dead his belly still looked rounded. Even though they can survive without food for awhile you would think he would start showing that he hadn't really eaten much, all he ever took was nibbles of mussels.
My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy for being so sad, but even though I had him for less than two weeks I loved him, he was a good puffer.
I find it weird that he didn't really eat but always had a somewhat rounded belly. When I found him dead his belly still looked rounded. Even though they can survive without food for awhile you would think he would start showing that he hadn't really eaten much, all he ever took was nibbles of mussels.
My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy for being so sad, but even though I had him for less than two weeks I loved him, he was a good puffer.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
Sorry about filbert!
he was such a pretty puffer!!
he was such a pretty puffer!!
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
Sorry for your loss
He was really beautiful.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
Thanks everyone, I still don't understand how he could have died so quickly. It was a very sad night last night.
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
I am really sorry about Filbert. I hope that you have a better day. 
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Re: I think Filbert might be dying... :( (toby) He is Dead.
aww im so sorry. he was a hansome fish 