OK, Got Finquel...
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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OK, Got Finquel...
...now what? I have no idea from those directions how much to dose for a small, flat, 4" (modestus) puffer. Anyone use this stuff yet?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
What do the directions say? If it doesn't say the dosage on the bottle/container, maybe you could send them an email about it. It really should say it on the container though. I'm sure you already know this, but don't do it without being sure of the dosage. Good luck!
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
There are different fish listed (mostly game fish) & dosages for them. None as small as my guy. Plus, I don't have a gram scale (anymore... 
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).You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
Hmmmm..... Seeing as Finquil is made mainly for game fish, I would suggest emailing the Finquil makers and asking them. The LAST thing you want is an OD'd Modestus. The second-to-last thing you want is a Modestus that's floppin' around and trying to puff while getting worked on. Unless he can't wait at all, I think it's in the best interest of you and him/her to email them. I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen? It's your call. I mean, if you can manage figuring out the dosage, you might be able to pull it off, but with a fish that rare, I'd be extra careful what you do with it.
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
No emergency--been meaning to do this for the past couple of months. I've had him about 4 years now & I can see him holding his mouth open a bit but seems to still be able to eat fine & he's nice & thick. I could always use the Clove oil butr I'd rather try the Finquil, plus it cost me like, $25.
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
Is there any way you could film this so people could use your example in the future?
i'm busy thinking of ways to remember what i was going to say
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
Pufferpunk try this website http://www.drugs.com/vet/finquel.html it may or may not help you.
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
There are step by step photos in the Pufferfish Dentistry article in our Library.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
Well, since you're apparently not in a hurry to do it, be sure to plan it out well. I'm sure that you've done it before, but you'll need a small bucket w/ tank water to temporarily hold him/her in, another small container w/ the solution, and then when you're done with the teeth, put him back in the first container for about 5-10 minutes. My modestus took about 7-10 minutes to get re-oriented. I used cOil though, so it might be diff w/ quel
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
The dose is 100ppm. Make sure to aerate and check pH - may need to buffer.
Kelly
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
LOL Groovydude, I wrote the article on that!
PQ, Can't I just use tank water? This is for a FW fish. Also, is this good to use to transport a puffer? I am shipping the babyburrfish to CAN in the spring.
PQ, Can't I just use tank water? This is for a FW fish. Also, is this good to use to transport a puffer? I am shipping the babyburrfish to CAN in the spring.
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
You can use the tank water but the finquel can lower the pH.
The only problem with shipping with the finquel is there is no guarantee that the fish will not be sensitive to the medication or become too sedated.....this can be used as a euthanasia drug at a different dose.....I would be weary of it.
Aren't you going to ship overnight?
The only problem with shipping with the finquel is there is no guarantee that the fish will not be sensitive to the medication or become too sedated.....this can be used as a euthanasia drug at a different dose.....I would be weary of it.
Aren't you going to ship overnight?
Kelly
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
Yes, I'll ship overnight--just saw in the instructions that it could be used for shipping & was wondering if that would be a good idea or not.
Back to my puffer (the reason I bought the stuff), is it best for me to mix the whole 5g worth for 1 little puffer, just to trim his teeth?
Back to my puffer (the reason I bought the stuff), is it best for me to mix the whole 5g worth for 1 little puffer, just to trim his teeth?
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Re: OK, Got Finquel...
I mix up the smallest volume to save medication. I would make up a gallon for a small puffer.
Kelly