This sucks, one of my baileys has just got a white opac crust over it's right eye, it must have happend in a matter of a couple of hours. Looks like fungus or maybe some kind of bacterial infection.
Are these puffers more sensitive to medications than other fish, or can I use the regular stuff in normal doses?
Bailey sensitive to medications?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Bailey sensitive to medications?
Are you sure its an infection and not a graze or bump injury from the decor or other puffer? If your water is spotless as I think it is becuase you got them to breed I would think an infection is less likely.
PLease post the answers to the Q's above in red and maybe we will have more to go on. As far as them being more sensitive I am not too sure sorry, personally I thought these were more robust than some other species
PLease post the answers to the Q's above in red and maybe we will have more to go on. As far as them being more sensitive I am not too sure sorry, personally I thought these were more robust than some other species
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Re: Bailey sensitive to medications?
I saw a video of a puffer swimming off the coast of hong kong. The water there has an orange tinge from all the pollution.
Re: Bailey sensitive to medications?
First of all, I'm not the one breeding my baileys, thats jelly.manutius wrote:Are you sure its an infection and not a graze or bump injury from the decor or other puffer? If your water is spotless as I think it is becuase you got them to breed I would think an infection is less likely.
PLease post the answers to the Q's above in red and maybe we will have more to go on. As far as them being more sensitive I am not too sure sorry, personally I thought these were more robust than some other species
The bailey-tank is about 30g, have been up a couple of months and is overfiltrated with 185g+150g /h. Inhibitants are two 3" baileys, now seperated by plastic mesh due to agressivity. Feeding is about two-three shrimps per week and water change is about 30% /every second week. Temperature is 25c, thats 77f if I'm not mistaken.
I don't have the water parameters, but I'm ordering new tests as I'm writing this.
And yeah, it's not just an injury. The thing is that I've had the exakt same thing on a pike cichlid in an other tank not so long ago. It started with a gray'ish transparant spot on the eye. Then it suddently was a something that looked like a white crust with knife-sharp edges. And then the eye turned completely opac with fuzz in the middle. I added salt to the water and tried to cure that with "JBL Fungol" when I thougt that it just was fungus. Then "aquafuran" from Aquarium Münster against all types of bacterial infections, and when nothing worked I tried with "Steriazin" from waterlife in case it was some kind of parasite.
Nothing seemed to have any effect, but the pike cichlid is now healed. The lens in the affected eye is gone, so the fish is blind on that eye, but it looks fine and healty.
In the tank with the pike cichlides I've had problems with extremely small white worms that just wouldn't go away. They say it's planaria worms, but i think it's something else. They are way to small for one to see the "eyespots as well as protrusions from the sides of their heads." These are more like the size of dust particles.
And there's more than that; there are small white particles gathering and growing on the surface, like somekind of strange floting algea. It would eventually cover up the whole surface if you didn't clean it away.
I've covered up the tank completely in black plastic for as long as a couple of weeks and drastically cut down on the feeding for a long period of time. But the worms and the white particles on the surface stayed.
And what do you know, some weeks ago I was doing some maintance on my tanks, and forgot to rince my hands with tapwater before I went from the pike-tank to the bailey-tank. So now I got worms and white particles there to. And suddently one puffer gets the same eye-problems that I had with my pike.
I think there's something nasty living in my tanks and will do a complete water change and clean everything I have in the tanks as soon as possible.
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Re: Bailey sensitive to medications?
Unless you have a good source for Bio-Spira, I don't suggest doing a complete clean out. If you do, then use Oxiclean to clean it out with. Try Melafix & Pimia fix 1st & do larger water changes on that tank--as much as 50% & then 75% after that.
What kind of shrimp are you feeding them? Are they gut-loaded? Puffers need a varied diet to be healthy.
What kind of shrimp are you feeding them? Are they gut-loaded? Puffers need a varied diet to be healthy.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"