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Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Well I am actually using Sterazin.
I nipped down to my LSH and got some today.
After calling Dartford Aquatics, the guy on the phone was very helpful and said he thought it looked like a better product for the job.
His boss is going to call me later today, to let me know if he has any other ideas, and also to let me know if I can get my money back on this fish f he doesn't make it.
Lets hope that doesn't happen. In the short while I have had this little fish I have got quite attached
Will keep you updated on how I get on.
I nipped down to my LSH and got some today.
After calling Dartford Aquatics, the guy on the phone was very helpful and said he thought it looked like a better product for the job.
His boss is going to call me later today, to let me know if he has any other ideas, and also to let me know if I can get my money back on this fish f he doesn't make it.
Lets hope that doesn't happen. In the short while I have had this little fish I have got quite attached
Will keep you updated on how I get on.
Last edited by pandaking on Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Anything is better than nothing, good luck with the treatment, be interested to see what results you get with it.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Pandaking, Sterazin looks fine to me, can you post what it's made of, the active components? Please let us know how your fish ARE doing!
Good luck!
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Well the Sterazin treatment has begun.
I forgot to add, I saw him poo today. First off, it was white/clearish, then it was brownish not very long, and was trailing out of him for about 2 hours.
The other one pooped again today, and it was about 5 times as long, and all dark brown, and it only trailed out of him for about 3 mins.
I have got some photos of the skin problem:
And also some of the more photos showing his general condition.
Interestingly enough he is now not on the bottom of the tank, but in the water flow form the filter.
*Updated my first post with this info*
I forgot to add, I saw him poo today. First off, it was white/clearish, then it was brownish not very long, and was trailing out of him for about 2 hours.
The other one pooped again today, and it was about 5 times as long, and all dark brown, and it only trailed out of him for about 3 mins.
I have got some photos of the skin problem:
And also some of the more photos showing his general condition.
Interestingly enough he is now not on the bottom of the tank, but in the water flow form the filter.
*Updated my first post with this info*
Last edited by pandaking on Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Well brown poo sounds good. I would use a combination of Melafix and Pimafix to treat the skin problem and to aid healing. To be honest i'm amazed he aint dead with how skinny he is so he must be a fighter. Food meds and pristine water and heres hoping he'll pull through.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
good luck. I hope it gets well.
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Thanks for the support!
I think I will worry about the skin condition later, my first problem is to get him eating and get rid of his internal nasties.
Once he is eating properly, and the internal parasite treatment is finished, I will get fixing the skin problem.
Unless you think the skin problem has caused him to stop eating and lose weight?
Cheers...
I think I will worry about the skin condition later, my first problem is to get him eating and get rid of his internal nasties.
Once he is eating properly, and the internal parasite treatment is finished, I will get fixing the skin problem.
Unless you think the skin problem has caused him to stop eating and lose weight?
Cheers...
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Sometimes the skin diseases can cause distress (depending on what they got it from) and it can cause fungal infections, which will cause a lot more problems later on. Melafix is an organic extract (tea tree oil, I believe), so you don't need to worry about it hurting your puffers. I'm not sure what's in Pimafix, but I'm sure it's a similar type of product. The idea is to reduce the stress on your fish by clearing up any injuries. Sure, we can live with a rash, but when we have other problems in addition to the rash, it sure makes things more stressful!
Also, I would treat at the same time for two reasons. The first being that the Melafix won't hurt your fish, so adding it doesn't really have any cons, assuming you're only using it to fix the skin problems (ie. don't add it all the time). Second reason is that the internal parasite problem is just that, internal, meaning that the two treatments won't conflict with each other. I'd hate to see you fix his IP problem, and then have him contract a fungal infection.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
Also, I would treat at the same time for two reasons. The first being that the Melafix won't hurt your fish, so adding it doesn't really have any cons, assuming you're only using it to fix the skin problems (ie. don't add it all the time). Second reason is that the internal parasite problem is just that, internal, meaning that the two treatments won't conflict with each other. I'd hate to see you fix his IP problem, and then have him contract a fungal infection.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Agnate is right, I'd do the same now you have your puffer reacting to the treatment. I added melafix in my main tank to treat my puffer's eye irritation and the med didn't harm any bacteria neither anything else. I don't know Primafix, but Melafix works great!!
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Look into the article in our Library on IPs. Also a list of anti-parasite meds stickied in this forum.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
OK, I will get some pimafix and melafix tomorrow.
As you can see, he doesn't look too happy at the moment:
Thanks...
As you can see, he doesn't look too happy at the moment:
Thanks...
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Oops, almost missed your post!Pufferpunk wrote:Look into the article in our Library on IPs. Also a list of anti-parasite meds stickied in this forum.
I see my thread has been moved to a better forum - thanks to the mod who did that.
I will take a look at the stickies in this forum, and the library
Thanks again everybody for you awesome help and support!
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Yeah, I moved it. And I have this forum here to help folks just like you!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Thin F8 puffer - possibly ill?
Can't add anything, but i wish you luck. Hope the guy makes it through the next few days, definitely get them both to eat food soaked in the meds... it's get inside them better
dartford should refund you your money, especially as you have photos of the state the fish arrived in.
If they don't, tell them you will tell everyone you know online how bad they are...
that'll scare them!
dartford should refund you your money, especially as you have photos of the state the fish arrived in.
If they don't, tell them you will tell everyone you know online how bad they are...
that'll scare them!
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