rescued gsp need help
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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lil_witchy2
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Lucky
rescued gsp need help
okay i have a 40 gal tank that has been established for about 6 months now. I have a gsp named smegal that is growing and doing wonderful. he has grown so much and has taken over the entire family. My boyfriend who told me that i was obsessed with him has fallen in love. So much so that he brought a poor scraggly gsp home that he said he just couldn't leave in the store because he knew it would die. He is sooo thin, think i can see bones. it is heartbreaking. since he was in freshwater i put him in a bucket with freshwater and slowly dripped smegals water into it. he took this well and his color, which had been almost black improved immensly. he is still dark but much much better than before. I crossed my fingers and put him in with smegal who was curious but then ignored him completely. when i feed them he tries to eat but can't seem to tear off pieces. when he does get a piece off it seems to sit in his mouth as though he cant' swallow it. i think i can see a bit of tooth that seems too long. i'm not sure what too long is, i just noticed it was longer than smegals. he ignores crushed snails. is there something that would be easier than shrimp for him to eat. i've managed to keep him alive for 5 days now but i don't know how long he can last in the condition he is in. i don't want him to die. also i am in the process of cycling a 30 gal tank for him in case he survives. smegal and the new guy who i have decided to name lucky are both small but i don't want to nurse lucky back to health only to find him shredded one day. i'm on the verge of tears everytime i look at him, please help me. i will try to take pictures of him so you can see that by thin i mean literally skin and bones.
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Re: rescued gsp need help
IMHO lucky should be in a quarantine tank by himself so that you do not expose your healthy puff to something lucky may have.
Good Pictures may help the experts here with luckys problems.
Good Pictures may help the experts here with luckys problems.
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lil_witchy2
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Re: rescued gsp need help
ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates 15
SG 1.005
i haven't had any problems with my tank at all, although i didn't consider that lucky might contaminate my tank. I just didn't have any other place to put him and didn't want him to die
nitrites 0
nitrates 15
SG 1.005
i haven't had any problems with my tank at all, although i didn't consider that lucky might contaminate my tank. I just didn't have any other place to put him and didn't want him to die
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Re: rescued gsp need help
SS is correct. You put a half dead puffer in with your healthy one? Whatever you treat, you'll have to treat them both for. Smeagol is in huge risk of looking just like the other one. Plus, that 40g was the perfect size for 1 GSP.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: rescued gsp need help
Why not try those cubes of bloodworms that you can thaw? They also have cubes of mussel with tiny pieces that might be easier for him to eat than something he has to tear pieces off of. They'll be really messy though...