GSP Bitten or Ill? [Images]

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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GSP Bitten or Ill? [Images]

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Late last night I noticed our slightly bigger gsp was pacing. Not normal for either of my gsp's at night at all. They always sleep near each other close to the bottom of the gravel in the corner of the tank near fake plants in between a bridge and the tank wall.

We checked both puffers and saw the smaller puffer had a circle on her back that appeared to have been a bite mark. She was bit one other time at feeding a few weeks ago (treated one week w/ melafix) and this mark sort of resembled the same appearance although this time it is in her green area so it does look somewhat different because the first bite was in the white area of her belly. Another thing I do not see is the 2 tiny holes I saw in the first bite. We added melafix.

I need to know is there any disease that would look similar to what I am seeing. No other symptoms as of yet. Both are eating normal. They are fed 6 times a week raw shrimp, krill once a week, bloodworms, just added cooked snow crab to their diet this week for the shell and small snails once in a while. They are both under 2 inches big. In fresh water atm.

We have been having mini spikes atm. Doing 50% water changes up to 2 times a week. Tested water this morning:

Tank has been set up a month. Tried to cycle with bio spira.
55 g FW tank atm 2 baby gsp only
nitrate 20
nitrite 0
gh 150
kh 120
ph 7.8
Temp steady 78

Decor the normal stuff, fake plants, large bridge with lg holes for fish to swim into ect... I do not know of anyway this fish could have been injured in her tank other then by the other puffer.

I'm hoping someone can tell from the photos what is on her back. Is there any disease that would look similar?

Note the white mark on her back. I can't get any more pics up right now due to my host not working properly. I do not see anything else not normal on her right now. She is not covered with any other white marks anywhere.

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looked here: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA041 I do not seen anything close to what it looks like nor any of those symptoms. She is acting herself.
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Probablly just a bite, use Pimafix and Melafix, and keep an eye on it.
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She still seems fine(thank God). Tonight the white seems to have faded some. Might have to seperate these two gsp's :( .
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Re: GSP Bitten or Ill? [Images]

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My GSPs bites sometimes turn white, but they still heal OK so far.
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