Hi, my fish are ill. more specificly my cichlids are very unwell. i just did a water change and now their gills have got a shiny green film spreading out from they gill exit (where the exhaled water comes out.)
1 of my keyholes has flipped over and cant stay upright. does anyone Please know whats wrong, like i said i just did a water change and they were fine before so i really dont know whats wrong or what i can do, i live in the U.K so most if not all antibiotics are unobtainable.. HELP!!!!
Ed
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Its ok i worked out what happened. tragic accident really. Filter got clogged + a massive input of ammonia from live brine shrimp that had been in the same small bag 4 days resulted in ammonia levels at 0.35!!!!! fixed now if course but too late 
. oh well never again and i spose im lucky cos i only lost 1 keyhole
. oh well never again and i spose im lucky cos i only lost 1 keyhole-
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Ammonia of 0.35, really shouldn't kill yor fish.
How often & how much water do you change?
How many fish of what size, in what sized tank?
How often & how much water do you change?
How many fish of what size, in what sized tank?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
about 30% and that the changes are always weekly. and the 0.35 was after the water change. If it wasnt the ammonia then all other values are low so i dont know what else it couldve been.
He was panting since the water change, then 24 hrs later he had a fit, was thrashing about like mad, banging into the glass and was swimming around upside down, then died 10 mins later. he wasnt that old. 4 months ish.
The tank is 36"/12"/12" and has been set up and cycled for a month, There's 2 kribs, 1 med plec, a med catfish, a small catfish, 2 african butterfly's and 2 baby keyholes (the one that died was adult) a total of about 25" of fish, that will grow to mebbe 32" max.
Water params are Ph 7, Ammonia 0.1, Nitrite 0, Nitrate >15 (all in mg/l)
tapwater isnt much less.
this any good cause i really dont want it to happen again, it was really upsetting
Ed
He was panting since the water change, then 24 hrs later he had a fit, was thrashing about like mad, banging into the glass and was swimming around upside down, then died 10 mins later. he wasnt that old. 4 months ish.
The tank is 36"/12"/12" and has been set up and cycled for a month, There's 2 kribs, 1 med plec, a med catfish, a small catfish, 2 african butterfly's and 2 baby keyholes (the one that died was adult) a total of about 25" of fish, that will grow to mebbe 32" max.
Water params are Ph 7, Ammonia 0.1, Nitrite 0, Nitrate >15 (all in mg/l)
tapwater isnt much less.
this any good cause i really dont want it to happen again, it was really upsetting
Ed
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