My gsp is about 2 years old and hes been doing great untill i changed the substrate after going to (1.022). all seemed fine, then he stopped eating, i figured it was jsut stress and he'd be fine in a week or so, hes done it before so i wasnt worried.
I went away to school, came home and did a water change mid week 2 times, but once again didnt pay mcuh attention figureing it was jsut wierd stuff from the substrate. the gsp was eating bits and pieces still not much.
i come home this week after leavign him for about a week and a half.
my fish is totally white on one side his eye is clouded over and hes a strange yellow color and has bright red gills. toxic ammonia. as soon as i saw it i grabbed a bucket and did a quick 5g(my tank is 30) change out with some water ive had sitting. he turned greener and the white let up almsot right away
so i went to the fish store to grab more salt and try to get some bacteria.
I came back and he was stuck to the filter again . i threw in some ammounia lock and changed another 5. hes now floating vertically.
honestly is there a way back or should i jsut cool him off. this is really sad i love my t-bone.
sad question.. please help
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
i changed the substrate to crushed coral. i was having a lot of problems with pH and as sson as i changed it he actually seemed very happy and was very bright green and very bright white buzzing around and nipping.
i knew as sson as i saw him my tank had uncycled honestlyi see no reason in even testing. theres nothign that had been introduced or that changed besides the substrate. it must have uncycled. i stopped checkign my water all the time after i had him a year. carelessness. i feel bad.
hes dead now...
my baby...
dont worry i didnt do it.
i just feel bad knowing that i could have stopped him from suffering any more.
i dont think i'll be getting another one.
maybe i'll get some coral and do that for a while.
i'll miss my buddy t-bone
i'll miss my crazy fish that bit me a few times and used to hiss at me when i fed him
i knew as sson as i saw him my tank had uncycled honestlyi see no reason in even testing. theres nothign that had been introduced or that changed besides the substrate. it must have uncycled. i stopped checkign my water all the time after i had him a year. carelessness. i feel bad.
hes dead now...
my baby...
dont worry i didnt do it.
i just feel bad knowing that i could have stopped him from suffering any more.
i dont think i'll be getting another one.
maybe i'll get some coral and do that for a while.
i'll miss my buddy t-bone
i'll miss my crazy fish that bit me a few times and used to hiss at me when i fed him
Dude.....I'm so sorry. Poor T-bone. It must've been some kind of poisoning, and if we can find out what happened, then you can prevent that happening in the future...don't give up on puffers just yet. I know it's upsetting...I remember when Freddie - one of my F8s - died...I was so upset that Steve said maybe we should return Robert and Mags to the lfs.
But I didn't, and they're fine to this day. Everyone on this forum - including PP and RTR - have lost puffers, so don't feel guilty...it happens. You live and learn.
Sorry again for your loss.
Pami.
But I didn't, and they're fine to this day. Everyone on this forum - including PP and RTR - have lost puffers, so don't feel guilty...it happens. You live and learn.
Sorry again for your loss.
Pami.
my sympathies-
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Sorry for the loss of your friend. 
For future notice, if you ever encounter a tank crash again, do an 80% water change & add Bio-Spira.
For future notice, if you ever encounter a tank crash again, do an 80% water change & add Bio-Spira.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop jammed in strange places. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.
ps. i tested and the Nitrites and nitrates werent registering, the ammoina turned dark dark green as soon as the last drop hit the test. later as i was taking him out of the tank i noticed that my mother had been feeding him and not taking out the uneaten portions (he hadnt been eating much, but usually he eats everything so there is no need) i found like 12 krill, 2 clams and 3 pieces of scallop jammed in strange places. i guess the bacteria were fragile after the substrate change and the food threw it over the edge.