Ok,
I just got my 3 little DPs and one of them has IPs I'm sure. When I got the little guys home I noticed how it had such a sunken belly, but then when they actualy got into the aquarium, they started hunting and seemed to be finding all they wanted because the sunken belly dispeared! ut this morning, the puff that had a sunken belly pooped and I saw a reddish stool that kind of looked like a bloodworm but only 1/8" long, followed by stringny white poo. So I'm pretty sure it's IPs.
Now, I got the frozen bloodworms, tawed them and soaked them in gel-tek, but they won't eat it. Like I said, they hunt and eat all the time things I can't see! So it's not that they are not eating, just not the stuff I offer! I also tried muscles with gel-tek and garlic and they just look at it and keep on hunting!
Since they don't understand yet that I'm offering food and that they are finding their own, can I add gel-tek directly to the water or will that be useless? If I can, how much drops should I add?
Also, I saw this morning that the otos have ich (only 2 of them with 5-6 spots each), I'm worried about treating for IPs and ich at the same time, won't it be too stressful for them all?
10G QT tank (they will be moved to a 15G when QT is over)
3 DPs and 3 otos (from the same lfs with centralised water system, bought them all yesterday)
NH3 = 0
No2 = 0
No3 = 5
pH is 7.8
Gh is 4
Use Aqua Plus to dechlorine
Aquarium has just been fishless cycled with shrimps (couldn't find amonia, I'm guessing what they are eating is little shrimps pieces although the water was changed 3 times before they got in there and the gravel was vacumed)
Tanks!
Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
I believe adding it to the water would basically be useless. You can treat ich and ip at the same time it wont hurt.
Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
My figure 8's took frozen bloodworms soaked in gel-tek and garlic guard no problem.
Sounds like you may have to wait until the food they're finding is gone.
Sounds like you may have to wait until the food they're finding is gone.
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Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
Thanks for your inputs.
I'll start treating for ich with aquarium salt right now. Then 'll try to train the puffs to take food from me! I guess you're right CoreyK, I'll have to wait for the food they are eating now to disapear! I did a gravel vaccum to help this.
I'll start treating for ich with aquarium salt right now. Then 'll try to train the puffs to take food from me! I guess you're right CoreyK, I'll have to wait for the food they are eating now to disapear! I did a gravel vaccum to help this.
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Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
Go to your local pet store, and get a levimisole wormer you can add to the water, unless the puffers eat the geltek treated food heartily. If only picked at, parasites develop resistance to meds FAST, and your IPs will be resistant to all 3 common puffer internal wormers.
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Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
ok, good to know.
Right now they show no interest at all in the food I offer. It seems they don't even notice me, they're too busy hunting in the aquarium!! Don't know what they find there, but they all have a nice little tommy now!! I tried tiny shrimp piece on a string (with gel tek) and one of them took a bite and then went back to hunting as if what's in there is way more interesting than shrimps! I tried mussel on a string too, and the same one tried to get the string, not the mussel!? I'll try to find levimisole, I think it'll be easier to treat the tank than to get them to eat the food I offer. I want to treat the otos too, but they are more interested in the glass than the spirulina or algae tablets!! None of my fishes want my food!!!
Does Levimisole unbalance the bacteria that maintain the cycle?
Right now they show no interest at all in the food I offer. It seems they don't even notice me, they're too busy hunting in the aquarium!! Don't know what they find there, but they all have a nice little tommy now!! I tried tiny shrimp piece on a string (with gel tek) and one of them took a bite and then went back to hunting as if what's in there is way more interesting than shrimps! I tried mussel on a string too, and the same one tried to get the string, not the mussel!? I'll try to find levimisole, I think it'll be easier to treat the tank than to get them to eat the food I offer. I want to treat the otos too, but they are more interested in the glass than the spirulina or algae tablets!! None of my fishes want my food!!!
Does Levimisole unbalance the bacteria that maintain the cycle?
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Re: Treating the tank with gel-tek for IPs?
Not that I know, but additives can be a concern, so read the ingredients, and too much may stress fish, so don't just keep dumping the stuff in there.
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