Sick GSP
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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mirage42085
Sick GSP
Just bought a green spotted baby puffer today and the tank is set up exactly how the tank should be for him and yet he was swimming fine but now hes going in corkscrews and not using one side of his fin when he swims but nothings wrong with that fin,theres nothing wrong visably in the tank or with the fish ,is he stressed or whut???????his belly is white and his spot on his head is bright so whuts wrong with him,he swims up top then lets his self fall to the bottom,i tried feeding him but he wont eat,what is wrong?!?!!also he lays at the bottom of the tank like hes not alive but hes not belly up though,just sitting there idle.
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Re: Sick GSP
Please answer all the questions above in red.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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anthony0425
Re: Sick GSP
Hi guys,
Well it appears my little GSP is sick and I'm not sure how treat the little fellow. I'm guessing it's ich because of the symptoms I have read about. I have another GSP in the tank and it appears to be doing fine.
1) PH- 7.8-8.0, Nitrate- ?, Nitrite- 0.25 ppm. Ammonia-0.00 ppm
2) 25 gallon tank with 2 GSP, plecos, Bumblebee cichlid (1.5") , and Electric Yellow cichlid (1")
3) Feeding: frozen brine shrimp, frozen krill
4) 25% water change last night, products added: aquarium salt, Tetra Aquasafe, and Kordon Rid Ich+ ( 2 treatments within the last 48 hours)
5) Tank has been setup for over 2 months, fully-cycled within 2 weeks.
Thanks for you help
Well it appears my little GSP is sick and I'm not sure how treat the little fellow. I'm guessing it's ich because of the symptoms I have read about. I have another GSP in the tank and it appears to be doing fine.
1) PH- 7.8-8.0, Nitrate- ?, Nitrite- 0.25 ppm. Ammonia-0.00 ppm
2) 25 gallon tank with 2 GSP, plecos, Bumblebee cichlid (1.5") , and Electric Yellow cichlid (1")
3) Feeding: frozen brine shrimp, frozen krill
4) 25% water change last night, products added: aquarium salt, Tetra Aquasafe, and Kordon Rid Ich+ ( 2 treatments within the last 48 hours)
5) Tank has been setup for over 2 months, fully-cycled within 2 weeks.
Thanks for you help
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Boxermom
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Re: Sick GSP
Welcome. First, start by doing a major water change and get that ich crap out of the tank. That will cause more problems, especially for puffers, than it helps. Then read the ich treatment article in the hospital forum on treating ich, and then read Pufferpunk's GSP care sheet in our library, then read the food articles in the library. You are using a too-small tank, have incompatible tankmates, are using the wrong type of salt and not feeding healthy food. And if you are showing nitrites, your tank isn't fully cycled and/or is struggling because the bioload is too high.
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Re: Sick GSP
I have to agree with Boxer there, you need another tank fopr the GSP's I would suggest about a 55Gallon tank
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mikeosoft
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Re: Sick GSP
I agree with everything Boxermom said. I'll only add that GSP's are brackish puffers (when young) that will eventually need a full-marine setup as they grow. Neither the BBG's or the yellow lab cichlid will be able to tolerate the salinities required to keep the GSP healthy.
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Boxermom
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Re: Sick GSP
They don't actually need full marine as adults, they need high end brackish. Most of us tend to keep them in marine, though, so we can use live rock and a skimmer to help keep the tank stable and clean.
Tina
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Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1