Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
Glad to hear he's doing better. He is pretty much my favorite puffer that's not mine.
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
LOL, what about the days before gravel cleaners, when you had to hand-stir all the gravel & the fish were swimming in brown poo-soup? Then you let it all settle on top of the gravel & syphon it off.will keep up with the water changes but I think I have realised why the nitrate went so high in the first place, since replacing my gravel syphon this week I got a lot more decaying matter out the gravel so I guess that my old one wasn't getting all the waste thus adding to the biolad of the tank. Clearly the stocking level is the real problem but all that poo poo wouldn't have helped
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
Troender wrote:manutius wrote: I hope your puffers can't rread
They are trapped in their tanks, and can't get to the computer - at least not that I know of. Except maybe little Houdini, who materialized into a new tank 10 meters away from her old one.
But I love them too, of course
I woud love to see Houdini do that trick, how cool 
Thats a good idea but as the tank is in the winsow there isn't a place i could site one of any decent size, also think the wife would flip out if I had pipework trailing around the loungespoot wrote:Manutius, if you have a small spare tank and some diy skills, you could have a refug on a shelf above clooney's tank. It would be fed via a pump and then it would overflow back down. We have some sort of floating plant in our tank that doesn't seem to mind water flow. They grow like mad too. I'll try to get a picture of it.
flamesofifreet wrote:Glad to hear he's doing better. He is pretty much my favorite puffer that's not mine.
aah thanks I shall let him know he has a fan club guys
Thankfully I haven't had that remarkable experiencePufferpunk wrote: LOL, what about the days before gravel cleaners, when you had to hand-stir all the gravel & the fish were swimming in brown poo-soup? Then you let it all settle on top of the gravel & syphon it off.
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
God, I'm old... 
Hey, w/RTR leaving, I think I'm the oldest here now.
Hey, w/RTR leaving, I think I'm the oldest here now.You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
21 aint that old
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
I wish I knew everything I know now & was the person I am now, in a 21 year old body!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
I hope your NO3 problem does not occur again. Just in case my 2 cent:
A plant filter ("veggie filter") similar to what Myaj and spoot suggested would be a good idea. A window box with several pots with fast growing plants w.g. "Umbrella Plants" Cyperus alternifolius and others that like permanently wet roots above the tank. Water should slowly flow through the box and return to the tank. Sunlight from the window would be ideal. Could be decorative to please the wife.
A sulphur filter (as used in large marine systems where life rock isn't enough) would work, too, but is rather expensive when done right (monitoring Red-Ox equipment).
A plant filter ("veggie filter") similar to what Myaj and spoot suggested would be a good idea. A window box with several pots with fast growing plants w.g. "Umbrella Plants" Cyperus alternifolius and others that like permanently wet roots above the tank. Water should slowly flow through the box and return to the tank. Sunlight from the window would be ideal. Could be decorative to please the wife.
A sulphur filter (as used in large marine systems where life rock isn't enough) would work, too, but is rather expensive when done right (monitoring Red-Ox equipment).
Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks.
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
Cheers Corvus I shall run this idea past the wife I really like the sound of it, though I would have to disuade the cats from using it as a toilet
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
Oh what plant is it that people routinely put in their fish tanks.. it has broad, waxy looking green leaves, you can put it right in the water and it will grow like a vine down the outside of the tank or across the top, very decorative... Ugh, I know my mom has some.
Supposedly it sucks up nitrates pretty well.
Of course, that just takes us back to the whole "nitrates are just a single item that we can convienently test for, giving us a basic idea of the pollutants in the tank. Take away the accuracy of that test, and you don't have a clue what other, not so easily testable, levels are rising to" discussion.
Supposedly it sucks up nitrates pretty well.
Of course, that just takes us back to the whole "nitrates are just a single item that we can convienently test for, giving us a basic idea of the pollutants in the tank. Take away the accuracy of that test, and you don't have a clue what other, not so easily testable, levels are rising to" discussion.
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very good point Myaj
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
How is it going? Is the condition still improving? Is the nitrates still going down?
So would I. I am still not sure how she did it. I think she hid inside an algae ball, and got transferred that way. It's the only explaination I can find (if she did, she got a bit squeezed - I squeezed the ball before moving it...). I was sooo sure she was killed and eaten by her husband, and suddenly she reappeared in the new tank where I was supposed to move her into. And, yes, I am absolutely sure she wasn't moved at the same time as her husband. But I can tell you I was relieved to find her! She is still doing fine together with him. Believe it or not: my two irrubescos sleep together!manutius wrote:
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
that's such a great story, now where are the pictures of the sleeping lovebirds?Just to let you know though Clooney still has a few cysts he is definately a lot brighter and ate well again last night. Nice garlic soaked prawn and octopus tentacle, mmmm yummy!!! Also my Black ghost knife fish and clown loach is clear of the disease. I have used melafix but will continue with water changes, 2x 40% a week I think.
How long after ther cysts disappear should I keep the salt in treatment running? Iwas think about 10 days, does that sound reasonable?
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
It's a relief to hear he's doing better... After being gone for a while and then seeing a hospital post with Clooney's name in it I was freaked out! This fish has to be the most popular puffer on the forum!
It's sad you lost your two Clown Loaches that were with you so long, but thankfully it looks like you won't be losing any others. This certainly inspires me to check my water parameters more regularly than I have been.
It's sad you lost your two Clown Loaches that were with you so long, but thankfully it looks like you won't be losing any others. This certainly inspires me to check my water parameters more regularly than I have been.
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
I just read your forum, I am so sorry that Clooney got sick but I am so excited that he is
doing much better now. He is my idol!!! 
. He has to be the absolute best puffer ever! Keep us updated.
doing much better now
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Re: Mbu in a 5ft tank= problems Clooney is sick
Any thoughts people?manutius wrote:
How long after ther cysts disappear should I keep the salt in treatment running? Iwas think about 10 days, does that sound reasonable?
For the record Clooney is back on form, has put his weight back on and its his excitable self whenever I walk in the room
Thank you all for your support