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Help! Parameter Problems

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:18 pm
by Deep Freeze
Okay, I tested my water parameters recently and noticed that my Nitrite spiked. I thought it was no big deal and I just did a 50% water change but it is still way too high. I'm very worried and don't know what to do. Also, I am using test strips and I know how inaccurate they can be so, do you guys think that it is the strips. So, please, Help!

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:20 pm
by Boxermom
Strips tend to be pretty inaccurate. If you can, get liquid drop kits. Alternatively, or in the meantime, take a sample to the store to test (they should do it for free) and tell them you need exact numbers, not "good" or "fine" or anything like that.

How long has the tank been set up? Any new additions?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:21 pm
by Myaj
Boxermom hit it right on the head.

In the mean time, to make yourself feel better, keep up those water changes and if you have it, use Amquel or Prime to help detoxify the nitrites a bit. They aren't as dangerous as ammonia, but still aren't good for the fish.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:56 pm
by Deep Freeze
Myaj wrote:They aren't as dangerous as ammonia
Well, thats good to know. Also, I have no new additions, just my GSP that I got after the tank had finished cycling. The tank has been set up for about a month. Also, someone told me to use a product called nitra-zorb, would anyone reccommend this? Would 20% water changes a day help?Anyone else's advice would be greatly appreciated.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:11 am
by Pufferpunk
How high did your test strip say it it? How did you cycle the tank? I would do 80% daily water changes, until it reaches 0 & stays there.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:18 am
by bonnie3188
Is your tank a full marine tank? If so, do you run a filter and how much do you feed?

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:43 am
by Corvus
Nitrites should always be absent. As soon as even the strips show some color, there probably is something wrong with your biological filtration. Probably not enough nitrogen input during cycling.

In addition to a large water change I'd add live bacteria from a running filter with the same salinity or BioSpira. That should solve the nitrite problem far better and instantly than absorbing media given your tank is large enough to support your puffer.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:57 am
by Myaj
The only "products" I'd recommend are Primel, Amquel or BioSpira, the others make me nervous.

Definately keep doing large water changes, it should catch up to you quickly.

Are you using any filtration products or water additives now? Sometimes they can mess with your cycle.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:10 pm
by Deep Freeze
Bonnie: My tank is not fully marine, but I am slowly rising the salinity for the health of my GSP.

Myaj: Are Primel and Amquel filter media products, how well do they work?

PufferPunk: The strips read the nitrite levels at 10.0, but I highly doubt they are accurate. But I am still worried.

I never knew a $5 fish could cause so much stress :cry:

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:27 pm
by Nick
Prime is a dechlorinator with the ability to detoxify ammonia and nitrite without stopping the good bacteria from getting them, it's the best way to protect your fish from the remaining toxins after your daily water changes. Amquel is the same thing, but with more of a risk of overdose, but people who can't get prime easily use it often, as it's better than the rest of whats out there. They are added to the tank directly in liquid form, and work nearly instantly.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:28 pm
by Nick
Also moved to the hospital, as any fish in the tank are in grave danger, and so anyone only checking that section might see and help.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:35 pm
by Nusquam
How quickly are you raising the s.g. and how are you testing for it? If you're raising by more than 0.002/week, then you could have killed off beneficial bacteria and started a mini- or re-cycling of the tank.

(Sorry if you already knew this, just thought I'd throw it out there just in case this is what happened)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:48 pm
by Deep Freeze
Would you be able to buy Primel at maybe Petco, or only at the lfs?
Nusquam: I have been raising the SG by .002, and I have been measuring with an Instant Ocean hydrometer.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:57 pm
by Stormylee
You should be able to get Prime at Petco.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:45 pm
by Nick
Make sure you ask for Prime if you have to, not Primel. I have never heard of Primel and a doubt your local petco will have either ;)