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hmm what happend, when i left the house the tank was like totally normal, but when i came back it was like really really foggy and misty and my fish is dead

hmm what happend?

Can you test the water for pH, nitrite, nitrate and ammonia?
That would probably help identify the problem quicker

Yes, we need more information.

How big was the tank?
How long has it been set-up?
How many fish were in it?
How big were the fish?
What kind of filtration?
How much and how often did you change the water?
What are the exact water parameters for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph, salinity etc?
What did you feed?

10 gallon
2 weeks
well how mnay fish 2 right now but before i had like 6 but that was like 1 week ago
eh i dont' know it was like a GSP and a bumble bee puffer
it's this filter called wisper
well i think it might be the fact that i did 2 water change in a day because i needed to move my desk around so i had to take some water out
i fed them this worms and blood worms

The tank crashed from a really bad cycle.

Fish waste decomposes and turns into ammonia, bacteria eat the ammonia and turn it into nitrite, different bacteria eat the nitrite and turn it into nitrate.
This is called the nitrogen cycle. When a tank is first set up, these bacteria aren't present yet, and so ammonia builds up untilt he bacteria begin to eat it. Ammonia and nitrite are very toxic. So when the ammonia built up, it poisoned your fish.

Furthermore, that 10 gallon tank was way overstocked with fish. Even though they are small, 10 gallons isn't much water volume.

That GSP will grow to 6 inches and needs 30 gallons to itself to be comfortable.

The bumble bee puffer is probably a figure 8 puffer and needs 15 gallons to itself.

You should see if you can take the fish back and do some more research before trying again.

Phaedrus wrote:The tank crashed from a really bad cycle.

Fish waste decomposes and turns into ammonia, bacteria eat the ammonia and turn it into nitrite, different bacteria eat the nitrite and turn it into nitrate.
This is called the nitrogen cycle. When a tank is first set up, these bacteria aren't present yet, and so ammonia builds up untilt he bacteria begin to eat it. Ammonia and nitrite are very toxic. So when the ammonia built up, it poisoned your fish.

Furthermore, that 10 gallon tank was way overstocked with fish. Even though they are small, 10 gallons isn't much water volume.

That GSP will grow to 6 inches and needs 30 gallons to itself to be comfortable.

The bumble bee puffer is probably a figure 8 puffer and needs 15 gallons to itself.

You should see if you can take the fish back and do some more research before trying again.

ya i got the tank and then i started all my reserahc so i knew it was too small, that's why i've been looking for a 30 gallon tank, and acutelly the bumblee bee is a bumblee bee puffer, cause i also looked at figure 8 but they were kinda small, so the bumblee bee was acutelly a real one LOL, it was cute, i'm doing a fishless cycling right now for my 10 gallon tank, although i wont' put a puffer back in but if i successfully cycle this tank could i pour the water i have in the 10 gallon tank into the 30 gallon one when i get it to spped up the 30 gallon fishless water cycling process?

Bumblebee=SAP?

i have no idea it just really looked like a bumble bee, it had fat yellow and black strips on them it's kinda cute and long, swims hella fast

Yup, SAP. Check out http://www.pufferlist.com

sap? what's the scientific name? and also i saw this puffer with bright red eye ball, they look really cool, they follow motions kinda scary looking soo i dont 'know, so far i have 5 types of puffer i can choose from, and i dont 'know which one to get, but i think i might still go with the GSP

I've heard many times that the dwarf was refereed to as a bumblebee puffer...

I would recommend researching each of the 5 types very carefully and thoroughly, learning everything you can about each one, so that you can make an informed decision.

hmm my bumble bee is pretty big acutelly, but ya i'm definatlly gonna research some more, the only problem i have is if i get a 30 tank what am i going to do with a 10 tank? would a figure 8 do well in it? AND BY THE WAY thanks everyone for helping me out here i really do greatly appreciate it

No, figure 8 needs 15g minimum.

OK, before you do anything else (especially buy more fish) start by reading thru the puffer profiles at the Puffer List. Then come back here & start reading everyhing you can in our Library. The best way to keep healthy, happy, long-lived fish is do research, research, research! Then ask questions about what you think you don't understand.