Gsp sik?

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Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:39 pm

Hi!
My gsp act strange. He swim with black belly daily time and with wite at evening and night time.
And very scary. He can suddenly scared and start fast swim around and bite himself into a glass or decorations. 3 times he jump out of the tank but get saved. What happening?

Tank 180l + 30l sump
1,024 sg
Nh4 nh3 - 0
No2 - 0
No3 - 10
Po4 - 0,1
Kh - 9
Ph - 8,5
With him live:
2 hermit crabs
1 urchin
Corals:
Acanthastrea
Favia
Zoas
Gorgonia
Some think non photosynthetic

Tank 1year old.

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:01 pm

Sorry, close one of two topic

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by Pufferpunk » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:34 pm

[welcome]
You are our first Russian poster here! How much live rock is in there? Lots of hiding spots? You really need a good lid on top to stop him from jumping out. I know that is difficult with corals. I am very surprised he has not "tasted" any of them.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:32 am

Thank you and sorry for bad English.
There about 35kg of rocks and his personal cave, where he rest and sleep.

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by Pufferpunk » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:17 am

It is possible the light you are using for the corals is too bright for him. What about adding some tall silk plants on each side? Is he eating & swimming normally?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:14 am

Light is just some led. Not so strong I think. Idk it about 2k lum only 12k Kelvin
Eating good. He never refused food.
Active swimming during the day time.
Maybe I should remake hardscape? With more hiding spots. But it hurt some mini creatures in rocks

You think it's not some kind of sickness? He just coward xD?

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by Pufferpunk » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:04 pm

I think he would feel safer & more comfortable with lots of hiding spots.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:34 am

Yes u right I think. Also I forgot to say about some change I did few weeks ago. I stared dosing vodka... (0,2ml per day for 1 week and 0,5ml per day at week 2 and 3. Now stop it. No3 become 5 and Po4 0)
Can he react on it? Few days ago I stop it. Will see maybe he become to normal. I try to remake hardscape but suddenly after dat my lobophyllia die 🙄

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by Pufferpunk » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:15 pm

Yeah, I wouldn't dose vodka, are you having algae issues? I developed a safer method of dosing Vitamin C, instead: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13501
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:40 pm

Yea a bit of algae invade my tank
Thank ill will check da link and post how puffer recover after few week of alcholism.
Also do u know how fast he can recover? He rly act like not sober man.
And can bio pellets somehow affect him?

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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by Pufferpunk » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:27 pm

I don't think bio pellets are the problem. I would do multiple water changes for the next week.
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Re: Gsp sik?

Post by polder » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:54 am

Thank you for advising me. I did 20l wc yesterday and want to do 2-3 more wc at this week

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