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Valentini Puffer died the morning after trimming... why?

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:07 am
by drankdripline
Today I woke up and my Puffer, Ardy, seems to have passed.

Last night I decided to trim his bottom tooth as he could not bite very well through his food. He mostly missed although once in a while he got a chunk.

I just had shoulder surgery, so I had someone help me. I felt bad asking them to help me with this so I did not set up the whole shabang. I simply had one small tote ready with his water, and I mixed the clove oil in the cup. I put about 4 drops of the oil into the 34 fl oz. I had previously mixed it with water in a cup.

I normally do less oil, but he was not turning, he was very nervous and I wanted him to relax before he hurt himself. As far as I knew the difference between sedation and lethality with clove oil is massive, so I figured I was safe. Nevertheless, we did the trimming. I clipped his bottom tooth and I put him into a recovery tote with an airstone. Within a couple minutes (if that) he was up, he was swimming, and I put him back into his tank. I watched him for a little while. He was swimming just fine, he even went to sleep in the place that he normally sleeps at night. Between his favorite arched rocks.

But this morning, I found him dead. Not very dead, but still not breathing or moving, and his eyes had sunken in. His color was good and he looked perfect otherwise. I tried to resuscitate him for a half an hour but it did not work, I have him in a tote with two airstones now just in case but I think he is gone for good.

What could have happened? He lived for at least 6 hours after the operation, I thought he was safe!

Re: Valentini Puffer died the morning after trimming... why?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:40 pm
by Pufferpunk
:sorry: :rip:
My guess is brain damage from overdosing the CO. How long did you wait before adding more oil? How long from the time you put him into the CO solution & back into clean FW?

Re: Valentini Puffer died the morning after trimming... why?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:59 pm
by drankdripline
Pufferpunk wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:40 pm :sorry: :rip:
My guess is brain damage from overdosing the CO. How long did you wait before adding more oil? How long from the time you put him into the CO solution & back into clean FW?

I only waited a couple of minutes, I should probably have waited longer but I never heard of brain damage from CO. Is it common? I thought the worst I would have to deal with was a really lethargic fish.

But the time was about 3 minutes from CO into fresh saltwater from his tank. I used an airstone to wake him up and he woke up seemingly fine. He even went back to where he normally hangs out in the tank.

Re: Valentini Puffer died the morning after trimming... why?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:37 am
by Pufferpunk
CO stops them from breathing.