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GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:16 am
by Squidub
Hello all! I'm new to the puffer forums, and this will be my first post!

I have a puzzling thing going on here...
I have (had) one juvenile green spotted puffer in a 20 gallon aquarium (until they grow to about 4" in low low end brackish water ( 1.004 ). The temperature is at 80°F and the PH is at a nice 7.8-ish thanks to my aragonite substrate. I have two sponge filters on either side of the tank, along with a 30 gallon hang on the back filter with carbon and sponge.
The water is hard, and my nitrite is around 2ppm and nitrate around 20ppm. I know these are higher than they should be and this is kind of what I'm here for.

I fed my puffer once a day with either frozen bloodworms, or freeze dried krill soaked in vitamins.

My question is... How do I keep the nitrite and nitrates down? I do 25%-50% water changes weekly, and only feed once a day.

I have had 2 puffers die on me in the past month. The first I assume was from internal parasites, which I tried to treat with general cure, but he was just too far gone from the start. (He was emaciated and had nipped fins) The second one was a fat, healthy gsp that was super active. Yesterday, he started breathing heavily and his eyes looked very white instead of orange/yellow. Later that day he started doing barrel rolls, and thats when I knew he was going downhill fast. I put him in a net breeder box that sticks to the side of the aquarium for the night, and next thing I know, he's just gone. All the puffers that passed were under 6 months of age.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong here, other than the nitrite and nitrates. I refuse to buy another until I find out what's going on. Thanks in advance!

Other things I've used in the tank: Prime dechlorinater (used in bucket of new water for water changes), VitaChem, PraziPro.

Re: GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:29 am
by Pufferpunk
ANY nitrite at all is toxic! A cycled tank would show none. How EXACTLY have you cycled this tank? Read all the Qs above, to see if you've missed anything.

Re: GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:35 pm
by Squidub
Pufferpunk wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:29 am ANY nitrite at all is toxic! A cycled tank would show none. How EXACTLY have you cycled this tank? Read all the Qs above, to see if you've missed anything.
Tank has been up for over a month. When I first got the tank I used the beneficial bacteria you can get in bottles to start the cycle. Didn't get any fish for a couple of weeks after that, and the only changes I've made was adding the aragonite a couple of weeks ago. The PH was already at the point it needed to be, and it didnt sky rocket when I added the crushed aragonite. It stayed the same basically. (7.6 - 7.8)

Re: GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:51 pm
by Pufferpunk
By adding bacteria & not feeding it (with ammonia), you have waisted that bottle of bacteria. In 48 hours it would have starved & died off. So you have an uncycled tank. You can remedy that by adding the product directly to your filter, at the same time you are adding your fish.

Re: GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:03 pm
by Squidub
Ahh okay, that makes sense. You see, everyone in stores and online said just use the bacteria. Now I feel just awful for the poor guys. I also wish I found this forum when I was cycling my tank because of the information on here.. I just purchased more bacteria, and I'll be adding an ammonia source. (not fish)
Thank you for letting me know!

Re: GSP's keep dying on me?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:04 am
by Pufferpunk