Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

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Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by NJD » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:46 am

Hi all,

I am going to plant two of my puffer tanks (a 500L and a 200L). My experience with live plants to date has not been great.

What chemicals do you use to keep the plants alive?

Is there any chemicals that I should avoid that puffers are sensitive to?

Thanks

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by pufferjw » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:57 pm

What type of puffers are in those tanks? Many will either uproot plants while burrowing or destroy them while hunting.
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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by astrid37 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:19 am

I haven't had too much of an issue with incidental plant destruction with my schoutedeni but don't know about other puffers. I don't use chemicals in the water, I just make sure that they have appropriate lighting and so far, everything in the various tanks is looking pretty good. I am growing Val, anubias, c. wendtii, hygro, and bolbitis this way.

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by ramp005 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:31 pm

My smaller puffers, up to 4-5" don't seem to bother my plants, with the occasional cut in a crypt leaf.
My young fahaka (which is growing fast) tears up crypt leafs but larger leaved plants like Anubias & Nymphea he leaves alone. I recommend Anubias glued or bound on rock or driftwood (what I'm doing this week in my new, larger fahaka tank).
I use standard liquid aquarium fertilizer almost every day in my puffer tanks.

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by NJD » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:18 am

Thanks Ramp,

What are you feeding your fahaka??

I bought a baby one last month, about 1-2 inches, he was super skinny and he doesn't seem to be growing or gaining weight.

I have dewormed him (soaked his food in flubendozol for 5 days and definitely saw worms coming out)

so not sure what to try. looking at the pic of yours from your schoutedeni thread, he looks much fatter than frank! ( My fahaka)

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by Pufferpunk » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:23 am

You may need to deworm again. Try using something else, like Metro. Some worms only die from certain meds.
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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by NJD » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:36 am

thanks whats metro?

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by ramp005 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:13 pm

NJD wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:18 am
Thanks Ramp,
What are you feeding your fahaka??
I bought a baby one last month, about 1-2 inches, he was super skinny and he doesn't seem to be growing or gaining weight.
I have dewormed him (soaked his food in flubendozol for 5 days and definitely saw worms coming out)
so not sure what to try. looking at the pic of yours from your schoutedeni thread, he looks much fatter than frank! ( My fahaka)
Like pufferpunk said, deworm again. Also by deworming, you kill the worms, what can give the fish the feeling of a full stomach. When he is/was heavily infested, iit can lead to blockage. So be patient for a few days so the dead parasites can be defecated.
As for food, I feed; frozen red mosquito larvea, cut clam meet, as for life food; black worms, cut, small eartworms, ramshorn snails. NO fish, poultry or meat products as they can't digest te last 2 properly and leads to illness.
Mine only eats food that he can fit into its mouth, so snail's not bigger than 2-3 mm.
I also found that he eats best when water temp. is 26°C - 79°F.
The pic was taken a few weeks ago. Check out a vid on my YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9tqea ... 1c-hMOWSfQ) and update/feeding video will be posted there at the end of the week (he already doubled in size).
I feed ones or twice a day, 6 days a week at the moment.
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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by ramp005 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:21 pm

NJD wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:18 am
Thanks Ramp,
What are you feeding your fahaka??
I bought a baby one last month, about 1-2 inches, he was super skinny and he doesn't seem to be growing or gaining weight.
I have dewormed him (soaked his food in flubendozol for 5 days and definitely saw worms coming out)
so not sure what to try. looking at the pic of yours from your schoutedeni thread, he looks much fatter than frank! ( My fahaka)
Answered your questions here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36971&p=369635#p369635

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by Mharr31 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:46 pm

I have quite a few different plants, but I’ve found that my GSP loves to eat the little onion plants and to uproot the bulbs.

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by ramp005 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:02 pm

Mharr31 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:46 pm
I have quite a few different plants, but I’ve found that my GSP loves to eat the little onion plants and to uproot the bulbs.
When I first got my fahaka baby,the first thing I noticed was that he/she started picking on some green algae on a rock in the quarantine tank, he still does it from time to time. It has been described that several puffer species take in algae from time to time.

BTW, the GSP is a brackish to salt water species. Perhaps it does it to get more salts into it's system.

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by StinkyPete » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:36 pm

Anubias plants are thick and can take a beating. The Anubias nana petite are small.
They are in a 24x24x30 tower on the left with eight pea puffers.
Tiny leaves. Tiny puffers sleep in them.

Before the new year, I'll be able to post a few pics of what bigger puffers (palembangenis/dragon, Turgidus/target) can do to a hoard of the various anubias plants.

For now, planted tanks are so nice.
If the conditions are right, you can almost stop using Seachem Fourish (basically vitamins for plants) for a while, but may need some potassium to cure up a few yellowing leaves if they start showing up.

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by ramp005 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:46 am

StinkyPete wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:36 pm
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Nice setup! I'm sure they love it !!!

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Re: Keeping plants alive in puffer tanks

Post by DMD123 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm

NJD wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:36 am
thanks whats metro?
metronidazole... or seachem calls it Metroplex
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