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Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:29 pm
by Breeee123
Hi everyone, I’m new to the forum and first off wanted to thank everyone for sharing their puffer experiences... I’ve been researching puffers for a while and this site has been a great resource.

On to my question. I am considering getting a Tetraodon Schotedeni and was hoping for some advice/feedback on whether my set up would be adequate. I was originally thinking about getting a few dwarf puffers but I’d really like to be able to get an algae eater such as a Pleco or some ottos to keep In the tank as well. After reading some horror stories I started to worry the DP’s could be aggressive with another fish and I’m not really comfortable throwing a Pleco to the sharks, haha. So I started second guessing my original dwarf puffer plan and I thought the more peaceful schoutedeni puffer might work better.

I have a 26 gallon Fluval bowfront with the longest side being 24 inches which I’m halfway through cycling. I’m growing out a ton of plants now so it will be heavily planted. I have totally fallen in love with the little spotted Congo guy but I’m worried the tank might be a little too small, especially if I get an algae eater as well. The tank gets a lot of sunlight so algae grows like crazy. I keep hand cleaning it from my glass but it’s harder to clean the driftwood and plants. Plus I just like little Bristlenose Plecos and imagine one would be really happy in my algae filled tank. :)

Right now I have a Fluval C3 hang on back filter and a sponge filter, but I’m open to replacing the hang on back filter with a canister filter if that will make my set up more doable.

Any thoughts on keeping a spotted Congo puffer and Bristlenose Pleco together in a heavily planted 26 gallon?

Sorry for the long post and thanks for the help!

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:40 am
by gkai
26g seems a little bit small, but a lot of growing, healthy plants should help a lot with water quality. Not sure about schoutedeni/pleco compatibility though. I'd like to know too, I may attempt that although in a much larger tank...

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:28 pm
by pufferjw
So in terms of the sizes of those two fish, a 26 bowfront will suffice. However, plecos and puffers both produce massive amounts of waste. Even with plants, you will likely need one of three things: a larger tank, a sump filter, or frequent water changes. Out of the three, I would suggest that you choose whichever makes the most sense based on your time and budget.

As for the pleco/puffer combo, I've kept an L46 with two Colomesus Asellus, so you SHOULD be fine...

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:52 pm
by astrid37
I have two green dragon plecos (one male and one female) in with my schoutedeni in a 55gal with a 120gal canister filter with no issues. There are lots of places for everyone to hide, and I still do water changes weekly because I am adore my puffer and am paranoid :).

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:09 pm
by pufferjw
astrid37 wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:52 pm I have two green dragon plecos (one male and one female) in with my schoutedeni in a 55gal with a 120gal canister filter with no issues. There are lots of places for everyone to hide, and I still do water changes weekly because I am adore my puffer and am paranoid :).
Really? I can't imagine any puffer I've ever owned not doing at least SOMETHING to a fish with that long of fins

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:05 pm
by astrid37
Nope! It's been 7 months, and all is well :).

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:27 am
by Breeee123
Thanks everyone for the helpful replies! It sounds like it would be a pretty big challenge to attempt that in such a small tank so I think I’ll actually go with several dwarf puffers and a small group of ottos instead and hope for the best. I think I’d feel better understocking my tank than overstocking it. So does 3 dp’s and 5 ottos sound more doable in a planted tank with lots of hiding places? I’ve read mixed reports on dp/Otto compatibility but with some luck, hopefully there won’t be anything more than an occasional nip. 😬

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:21 am
by Pufferpunk
That sounds like a good stocking list.
Do you know how to sex a DP?

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:03 pm
by Breeee123
I’ve heard conflicting reports on sexing them. Some say if you get them as juveniles they can “choose their sex,” and when one starts to develop into a male they secrete a hormone that causes the rest of the DP’s to stay female. Not sure how accurate this is. I do know about the eye wrinkles and other physical differences but heard they don’t really develop these until they’re older. If the whole “choosing their sex” thing is a myth then it sounds like it’s just the luck of the draw if your LFS only has juveniles??

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:43 pm
by Pufferpunk
None of that is true.
I'm sorry the pics don't show up in this:
library/puffers-in-focus/sexing-carinot ... rf-puffer/
library/puffers-in-focus/dwarfpuffercare/

Re: Schoutedeni in a 26 gallon tank?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:50 am
by Breeee123
Thanks Pufferpunk... great articles!